Kyle Rittenhouse

anonymoose said:
Why do you single out my brethren? (I have No brothers here)

We’re all here.
Difference is…




I’m here to ridicule you jokers.
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:palm: Nothing is more pathetic than an ignorant MAGA minion trying to come off as intelligent in a debate.

For your education, from the Cambridge dictionary:

Brethren - used as a form of address to members of an organization or religious group

Now try as you might, you can't deny that over the years you've expressed the exact sentiments of groups like the tea party, or new conservatives, or libertarians or the current Maga folk. Many on this site are of the same mindset and post accordingly as you do....hence, I refer to them as your "brethren". Capice?

Oh, and one of the reasons why Nordberg may have picked this up again is this (although I'm just guessing):

Kyle Rittenhouse, county officials sued by Joseph Rosenbaum’s estate

The lawsuit, filed on Aug. 25 on behalf of the estate of shooting victim Joseph Rosenbaum’s estate, names a number of plaintiffs alongside Rittenhouse, including Kenosha and Waukesha Counties, the Kenosha County Sheriff’s Department, the Kenosha Police Department, the heads of the respective departments and others.

The 15-count lawsuit includes conspiracy to deprive constitutional rights, conspiracy to obstruct justice based on discrimination, deprivation of due process, failure to intervene, intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligence and wrongful death.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...sued-by-joseph-rosenbaum-s-estate/ar-AA1fU1Jx

You only convince the joker you see in the mirror and your brethren here that you are "ridiculing" anyone, Moosie. Carry on.
 
Taichiliberal said:
...Oh, and one of the reasons why Nordberg may have picked this up again is this (although I'm just guessing):

Kyle Rittenhouse, county officials sued by Joseph Rosenbaum’s estate

The lawsuit, filed on Aug. 25 on behalf of the estate of shooting victim Joseph Rosenbaum’s estate, names a number of plaintiffs alongside Rittenhouse, including Kenosha and Waukesha Counties, the Kenosha County Sheriff’s Department, the Kenosha Police Department, the heads of the respective departments and others....

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...sued-by-joseph-rosenbaum-s-estate/ar-AA1fU1Jx
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It'll be interesting to see how that plays out, especially against the Sheriff and Police since, IIRC, there were connections between them and the local militias.

FWIW, I still think Kyle was used as bait by the militia to make a martyr out of him.
 
Doc Dutch said:
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...Oh, and one of the reasons why Nordberg may have picked this up again is this (although I'm just guessing):

Kyle Rittenhouse, county officials sued by Joseph Rosenbaum’s estate

The lawsuit, filed on Aug. 25 on behalf of the estate of shooting victim Joseph Rosenbaum’s estate, names a number of plaintiffs alongside Rittenhouse, including Kenosha and Waukesha Counties, the Kenosha County Sheriff’s Department, the Kenosha Police Department, the heads of the respective departments and others....

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...te/ar-AA1fU1Jx
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It'll be interesting to see how that plays out, especially against the Sheriff and Police since, IIRC, there were connections between them and the local militias.

FWIW, I still think Kyle was used as bait by the militia to make a martyr out of him.
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Some may write that off as a conspiracy theory, but crazier things have happened, Dutch. Personally, I would like to see the local cops explain to America how they let an ARMED kid in a civil unrest situation run up to them, confess he just shot someone, and LET HIM WALK! But maybe we'll get some eye witnesses to testify as to what transpired PRIOR to the shooting. :thinking:
 
Taichiliberal said:
you can't deny that over the years you've expressed the exact sentiments of groups like the tea party, or new conservatives, or libertarians or the current Maga folk.
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Only in regard to my disdain for far left wing ideology. Other than that I have little in common with today’s pubs. And the tea party died along with Sarah , Michelle Bachman , Jim DeMint, et al. Stay current and relevant. Plus I challenge you to find a post where I show any support for trump or magats.
Taichiliberal said:
Oh, and one of the reasons why Nordberg may have picked this up again is this (although I'm just guessing):.
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Irrelevant why he resurrected it. Fact is, he did.
Any topic on Rifle Kid is beating a dead horse .
 
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Taichiliberal said:
Some may write that off as a conspiracy theory, but crazier things have happened, Dutch. Personally, I would like to see the local cops explain to America how they let an ARMED kid in a civil unrest situation run up to them, confess he just shot someone, and LET HIM WALK! But maybe we'll get some eye witnesses to testify as to what transpired PRIOR to the shooting. :thinking:
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Not a conspiracy theory. The Kenosha Guard militia had ties to Kenosha Police Chief Miskins who had deputized them the night of the shooting.

October 18, 2021
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/wh...olice-led-deadly-shooting-lawsuit-2021-10-16/
Kenosha police 'deputized' militia ahead of deadly shooting, lawsuit claims
A man shot by U.S. teenager Kyle Rittenhouse during racial justice protests in Wisconsin last year has filed a lawsuit against local law enforcement he accuses of deputizing a "roving militia" of white nationalists.

Gaige Grosskreutz filed the lawsuit in federal court on Thursday. He was one of three people shot by Rittenhouse, two of whom died. Rittenhouse faces trial on homicide and attempted homicide charges next month in the August 2020 shooting in Kenosha.

"It was not a mistake that Kyle Rittenhouse would kill two people and maim a third on that evening," Grosskreutz's lawsuit said. "It was a natural consequence of the actions of the Kenosha Police Department and Kenosha Sheriff's office in deputizing a roving militia to 'protect property' and 'assist in maintaining order.'"...

...Grosskreutz's lawsuit said that members of a militia called the Kenosha Guard and others arrived at the protest at the invitation via Facebook of Kevin Mathewson, a former Kenosha City Council member. It said they were openly brandishing weapons and threatening those taking part in demonstrations protesting the shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha.

The lawsuit said unnamed militia members intended to kill protesters they said were rioting and looting.

It also cites an email Mathewson sent to the police chief, which according to the lawsuit said, "as you know, I am the commander of the Kenosha Guard, a local militia" and that "we are mobilizing tonight and have about 3,000 RSVP's."

Mathewson, who works as a private investigator, told Reuters that the Kenosha Guard was actually an "ad hoc" group of ordinary citizens, including Black and Latino members, who had never met before the night of the Rittenhouse shooting, and never carried out any training.

Mathewson said the group organized to protect their neighborhoods after racial justice protests held a few months before the Rittenhouse shooting resulted in some local businesses being burned and looted. He rejected any notion that the Kenosha Guard was a white nationalist militia.

"It's just not true, it's a silly assertion," he said.

The lawsuit said the social media posts made clear that the militia members were not at the protest to protect local businesses or contracted for security by any local stores.
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anonymoose said:
Only in regard to my disdain for far left wing ideology. Other than that I have little in common with today’s pubs. And the tea party died along with Sarah , Michelle Bachman , Jim DeMint, et al. Stay current and relevant. Plus I challenge you to find a post where I show any support for trump or magats.
Irrelevant why he resurrected it. Fact is, he did.
Any topic on Rifle Kid is beating a dead horse .
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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post

you can't deny that over the years you've expressed the exact sentiments of groups like the tea party, or new conservatives, or libertarians or the current Maga folk.
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Moosie replies;
Only in regard to my disdain for far left wing ideology.

My man, that "disdain" is the part of the primary reason and basis for the groups I previously mentioned in dealing with EVERYTHING political and social in America. So logically, you have a hell of a lot more than a "little in common" with the aforementioned yahoos.

And no, the teabaggers did not "die" because a few headliners are no longer in political power of any sort. Pay attention: the "new conservatives" morphed into the "tea party", who incorporated some of the libertarian philosophy, both of whom have morphed into the MAGA mess we see today. Think not? Then just check out the voting polls over the years when said parties were in the spotlight....and the majority of folk elected or still in power from those years.

As for your like minded MAGA mush and right wing wonkery:

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...-Empire-Consortium-News&p=5752499#post5752499

Here's your wimpy way of trying not be labeled as a MAGA minion while trying to excuse Trump's business chicanery:

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...p-lies-about-his-assets&p=5766867#post5766867

Here's where you use the standard MAGA ploy of accusing someone of using language they did not use or imply in their post ... then you stubbornly harp on that illogical premise:

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...mas-amp-Yale-Law-School&p=5586803#post5586803

Those are just for starters. I could go on and on with examples using the simple search tools afforded to us here. But you'll just parrot your denial because you stupidly think that if you do not say an exact particular sentence, no one will figure out your true stance on a subject. In short, you're an intellectual coward.


Also, only a complete MAGA jackass would say that any current, NEW information of a celebrated news event is "irrelevant". TFB if you don't like it, but it exist. You don't have to join the discussion, as your attention span regarding current events is obviously limited. Carry on, Moosie.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Some may write that off as a conspiracy theory, but crazier things have happened, Dutch. Personally, I would like to see the local cops explain to America how they let an ARMED kid in a civil unrest situation run up to them, confess he just shot someone, and LET HIM WALK! But maybe we'll get some eye witnesses to testify as to what transpired PRIOR to the shooting. :thinking:
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It wasn't illegal to carry a rifle in that situation and Rittenhouse was legally carrying the rifle. It is doubtful that the cops heard him say he shot someone. BTW how many murders run up to cops and confess? Rittenhouse was legally carrying the rifle and he legally defended his life against two a convicted pedophile child rapist and a convicted wife beater. He did the world a favor and rid it of two dangerous people.
 
ExpressLane said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Some may write that off as a conspiracy theory, but crazier things have happened, Dutch. Personally, I would like to see the local cops explain to America how they let an ARMED kid in a civil unrest situation run up to them, confess he just shot someone, and LET HIM WALK! But maybe we'll get some eye witnesses to testify as to what transpired PRIOR to the shooting.
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It wasn't illegal to carry a rifle in that situation and Rittenhouse was legally carrying the rifle. It is doubtful that the cops heard him say he shot someone. BTW how many murders run up to cops and confess? Rittenhouse was legally carrying the rifle and he legally defended his life against two a convicted pedophile child rapist and a convicted wife beater. He did the world a favor and rid it of two dangerous people.
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You're either a liar or ignorant of the law or both. I already posted the local law that states that an underage person (as widdle Kyle was at the time) could not possess such a weapon UNLESS PURCHASED AND SUPERVISED BY AN ADULT, TO BE USED FOR HUNTING ONLY. He was UNDERAGED to obtain a carry permit, and was not even a local citizen. And spare us all your wishful thinking and revisionist clap trap....eye witness and video has widdle Kyle declaring his guilt, AS HE STATED IN TRIAL...and guess what? THE COPS SAW HIM RUNNING AROUND WITH THAT ASSAULT RIFLE! In a situation of civil unrest/a riot, any cop worth his salt knows that you DETAIN, DISARM and arrest any civilian brandishing a weapon in a crowd.

See, you did was the usual right wing wonk shuffle. Face with facts you cannot deny that disproves your beliefs and agenda, you lie, deny and fabricate. As any high school debate teacher will tell you, that dog of yours won't fly.

Pew-pew-pew, indeed.
 
Taichiliberal said:
You're either a liar or ignorant of the law or both. I already posted the local law that states that an underage person (as widdle Kyle was at the time) could not possess such a weapon UNLESS PURCHASED AND SUPERVISED BY AN ADULT, TO BE USED FOR HUNTING ONLY. He was UNDERAGED to obtain a carry permit, and was not even a local citizen. And spare us all your wishful thinking and revisionist clap trap....eye witness and video has widdle Kyle declaring his guilt, AS HE STATED IN TRIAL...and guess what? THE COPS SAW HIM RUNNING AROUND WITH THAT ASSAULT RIFLE! In a situation of civil unrest/a riot, any cop worth his salt knows that you DETAIN, DISARM and arrest any civilian brandishing a weapon in a crowd.

See, you did was the usual right wing wonk shuffle. Face with facts you cannot deny that disproves your beliefs and agenda, you lie, deny and fabricate. As any high school debate teacher will tell you, that dog of yours won't fly.

Pew-pew-pew, indeed.
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He was supervised by his friend that was 21 and he did not have free access to the gun which was stored in a safe. in Kenosha Wi. The Prosecutor had to drop all gun charges on him. You are either a moron or a liar or most likely both. You obviously know very little about gun because assault rifles are automatic weapons. Kyle was using a semiautomatic weapon.
 
Taichiliberal said:
You're either a liar or ignorant of the law or both. I already posted the local law that states that an underage person (as widdle Kyle was at the time) could not possess such a weapon UNLESS PURCHASED AND SUPERVISED BY AN ADULT, TO BE USED FOR HUNTING ONLY. He was UNDERAGED to obtain a carry permit, and was not even a local citizen. And spare us all your wishful thinking and revisionist clap trap....eye witness and video has widdle Kyle declaring his guilt, AS HE STATED IN TRIAL...and guess what? THE COPS SAW HIM RUNNING AROUND WITH THAT ASSAULT RIFLE! In a situation of civil unrest/a riot, any cop worth his salt knows that you DETAIN, DISARM and arrest any civilian brandishing a weapon in a crowd.

See, you did was the usual right wing wonk shuffle. Face with facts you cannot deny that disproves your beliefs and agenda, you lie, deny and fabricate. As any high school debate teacher will tell you, that dog of yours won't fly.

Pew-pew-pew, indeed.
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Nope the law says :

(c) This section applies only to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a rifle or a shotgun if the person is in violation of s. 941.28 or is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593. This section applies only to an adult who transfers a firearm to a person under 18 years of age if the person under 18 years of age is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593 or to an adult who is in violation of s. 941.28.
History: 1987 a. 332; 1991 a. 18, 139; 1993 a. 98; 1995 a. 27, 77; 1997 a. 248; 2001 a. 109; 2005 a. 163; 2011 a. 35.
Sub. (2) (b) does not set a standard for civil liability, and a violation of sub. (2) (b) does not constitute negligence per se. Logarto v. Gustafson, 998 F. Supp. 998 (1998).
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So what does section 941.28 say?


(a) This section does not apply to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a dangerous weapon when the dangerous weapon is being used in target practice under the supervision of an adult or in a course of instruction in the traditional and proper use of the dangerous weapon under the supervision of an adult. This section does not apply to an adult who transfers a dangerous weapon to a person under 18 years of age for use only in target practice under the adult's supervision or in a course of instruction in the traditional and proper use of the dangerous weapon under the adult's supervision.
(b) This section does not apply to a person under 18 years of age who is a member of the armed forces or national guard and who possesses or is armed with a dangerous weapon in the line of duty. This section does not apply to an adult who is a member of the armed forces or national guard and who transfers a dangerous weapon to a person under 18 years of age in the line of duty.
(c) This section applies only to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a rifle or a shotgun if the person is in violation of s. 941.28 or is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593. This section applies only to an adult who transfers a firearm to a person under 18 years of age if the person under 18 years of age is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593 or to an adult who is in violation of s. 941.28.
History: 1987 a. 332; 1991 a. 18, 139; 1993 a. 98; 1995 a. 27, 77; 1997 a. 248; 2001 a. 109; 2005 a. 163; 2011 a. 35.
Sub. (2) (b) does not set a standard for civil liability, and a violation of sub. (2) (b) does not constitute negligence per se. Logarto v. Gustafson, 998 F. Supp. 998 (1998).
941.28.(b) “Short-barreled rifle" means a rifle having one or more barrels having a length of less than 16 inches from closed breech or bolt face to muzzle or a rifle having an overall length of less than 26 inches
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The gun that Rittenhouse was carring was Smith and Wesson M&P 15 which has a barrel longer than 16 inches. That is why the gun charges were dropped by the judge.

BOOM BOOM BOOM
 
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Look, we fucked up.

We didn't put the Rittenhouse kid gently and permanently to sleep as sanity would dictate.

If they were too queasy, they could have asked me to do it.

They didn't, so why talk about it now?
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Look, we fucked up.

We didn't put the Rittenhouse kid gently and permanently to sleep as sanity would dictate.

If they were too queasy, they could have asked me to do it.

They didn't, so why talk about it now?
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Except that he was not convicted, found to have acted in self-defense after and during violent attacks from rioters.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Look, we fucked up.

We didn't put the Rittenhouse kid gently and permanently to sleep as sanity would dictate.

If they were too queasy, they could have asked me to do it.

They didn't, so why talk about it now?
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Rittenhouse would have gotten the drop on you like he did the pedophile and the wife beater.
 
I think it was brilliant to spare the life of Gaige Grosskreutz so that he would be a strong witness for the defense.
Incredibly good marksmanship and quick thinking to shoot him in the arm holding the gun under intense pressure.
Not many people could have done that.
Rifle Kid could easily be in Special Forces if he got in shape.
 
anonymoose said:
I think it was brilliant to spare the life of Gaige Grosskreutz so that he would be a strong witness for the defense.
Incredibly good marksmanship and quick thinking to shoot him in the arm holding the gun under intense pressure.
Not many people could have done that.
Rifle Kid could easily be in Special Forces if he got in shape.
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I found it interesting he just shot Gaige Grosskreutz only one time and he did not kill him. It Rittenhouse were out to just kill people he had a perfect opportunity to finish the job but he didn't.
 
ExpressLane said:
I found it interesting he just shot Gaige Grosskreutz only one time and he did not kill him. It Rittenhouse were out to just kill people he had a perfect opportunity to finish the job but he didn't.
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He instinctively knew Gaige Grosskreutz would be an excellent defense witness. And he was.
 
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