Most corrupt politicians of 2009 named by Judicial Watch

yellow_peril said:
Soldiers of your nation daily slaughter defenseless in Iraq and Afghanistan. Many are tortured and imprisoned in secret by CIA. Do you deny these facts?
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You are attemtping to change the subject again.

The discussion was about your claims concerning China. You have consistently failed to acknowledge or address them.

If you are going to be dishonest in the discussion, why should anyone admit to anything?
 
yellow_peril said:
You need not admit USA war crimes. Your own citizens condemn you in droves.
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Indeed we do condemn those who commit murders. I am most proud of that condemnation.

You, however, come on this forum and brag about the murders committed by your gov't.

Which of us would you consider the more civilized? (and please save the "We are a far older culture" nonsense for another discussion. It has no bearing here)
 
yellow_peril said:
Our authorities commit no murder. This is slanderous.
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If they execute a politician or businessman for accepting a bribe, they certainly did commit murder.

There is no civilized justice system in the world that would claim that accepting a bribe is a capital offense.
 
You are in serious error. All capital sentences are confirmed by courts.
It is an important effort to strictly control the application of the penalty by judicial organs.
 
WinterBorn said:
Yes Jesus was executed. And no, my religion does not teach "an eye for an eye". You are mistaken about that. In the Old Testament that was the law. But Jesus spoke against that law and it is no longer part of proper christian ideology.

Also, the fact that someone was executed 2,000 years ago does not even come close to justification for executions of politicians now.

You make claims that China is so modern, and yet are replying on the execution of someone 2k years ago as an argument? That is insanity at its best.
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You do not know what you are talking about with regards to biblical teaching on law and justice.

The only times the OT condoned executions by a court of law were for murder; and that with two or more witnesses. That kind of objective proof for sentencing a man to death is still condoned by the majority of people today in the US, Christian and othrwise.

I would even stipulate that DNA, fingerprints, and other kinds of evidence count as "witnesses against you".

As to putting a person to death for financial crimes, I agree that that is barbaric.
 
yellow_peril said:
You are in serious error. All capital sentences are confirmed by courts.
It is an important effort to strictly control the application of the penalty by judicial organs.
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Are you making the claim that no innocent people have been executed?
 
yellow_peril said:
I know of no such situation. Should this occur and be proven, the responsible parties would be investigated and charged as appropriate.
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There are numerous documented cases of people being accused capital crimes and tried accordingly, in which their defense attornies had only one or two days to prepare for trial.

With that being the case, how can you make such a claim. Especially since the gov't does not allow further investigation once the execution has taken place.

It is a corrupt system. It does not care for the people, but is more concerned about its image than about its people.
 
yellow_peril said:
You have no corroboration for such claims.
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You obviously did not read the links I posted much earlier today.

I got my information from Amnesty International, the BBC, and from other reliable non-US news agencies.

Just a tip for you. If you are going to ignore references and links, try and keep to simpler topics.
 
Reports from non-official sources are unreliable. These deceptive words and deeds of the liars have created nothing more than a pitfall for themselves. As they fabricate new lies to cover up previous ones, the nature of their words becomes clearer: they are anything but true.
 
yellow_peril said:
Reports from non-official sources are unreliable. These deceptive words and deeds of the liars have created nothing more than a pitfall for themselves. As they fabricate new lies to cover up previous ones, the nature of their words becomes clearer: they are anything but true.
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So you claim that the only news about government activities that is reliable are news agencies run by that same government?

LMAO! That is laughable.

The fact that numerous news agencies from many different nations reported the same things gives far more credibility to the stories.
 
yellow_peril said:
I am amused at your innocence.
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My innocence? I seek out information from numerous sources. I am willing to admit the faults of my nation, and seek to make changes so that the transgressions will not be repeated.

You accept the word of your gov't and no one else. You are unwilling to admit any faults in your gov't and so allow the transgressions to continue.

I am part of a force that protects. You are part of a force that hides and assists continued transgressions.
 
yellow_peril said:
I am aware of no transgressions. Neither are you.
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The persecution of innocent Uighurs is certainly a transgression.

The suppression of news of tainted milk is certainly a transgression.

Execution of politicians and businessmen accused of taking bribes is certainly a trangression.

Detaining individuals for exercising their rights to freedom of association, freedom of religion and freedom of expression is certainly a transgression.

Torturing prisoners is certainly a trangression.

The treatment of Tibet is certainly a transgression.
 
yellow_peril said:
I am aware of no transgressions. Neither are you.
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You are not aware of trangressions because you claim the only reliable news is that which comes from your government.

Your government will not report its own transgressions.
 
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