Will Trump be on your ballot?

[Port Tack]

I didn't say I didn't believe the judge. Keep up if you can. I asked if he was convicted if rape why is he free and does he have to register as a sex offender? Rapists have to register as sex offenders. Did he do that? Is OJ Simpson a murderer?

Just because it was a civil trial does not mean that he did not rape her. If you are found guilty in a civil trial you are not going to do time just like if you are ordered to pay 5 million to the accuser in a civil trial that means you fucking did it. Only the MAGA shithead is going to play games with words in order to try and excuse their fuhrer for raping that woman.

 

[Port Tack]

I am saying they use criteria, but the Constitution does not say what the criteria is. How do they decide what age a person is? If there were was evidence he was under 35 but it was not from a criminal court, what do you do?

Precisely, no courtroom is necessary to remove someone from a ballot if they are deemed to be ineligible. No self respecting person is going to doubt that Trump tried to steal that election.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

If OJ is a murderer Trump raped Carroll. If OJ is not a murderer then Trump still raped Carroll. What the fuck has OJ to do with it?

We're still not acknowledging the legal difference between liability and guilt;

but we're also not acknowledging

that being liable for it having happened is at least linguistically, if not legally,

the same as doing it.

 

[Port Tack]

Comer's committee has already presented a lot of it but what specifically do you think isn't already public record?

They have presented a load of bullshit, none of it would stand up in court. They have nothing.

 

[Port Tack]

It also doesnt say you're free to kill babies

Babies are not babies until they are born. The constitution does not say anything about the unborn and what rights they may have.

 

[Port Tack]

So according to Jarod a S of S can decide who THEY want and don't want to run for President in their state. Ridiculous.

with logical grounds, yes.

 

[Port Tack]

Jarod thinks someones opinion is just fine. He thinks because the word "convicted" doesnt appear in the 14 th amendment and "engaged in"does then each state secretary of state gets to decide the issue and screw due process.

Opinion is not just fine, 100 felony charges without determining their innocence is perfectly acceptable.

 

[Port Tack]

Not true. Perhaps a pro choice Republican, but they don't exist.

Nikki Haley is pro-choice half way through a pregnancy with additional exceptions for rape, incest, life of the mother or if the unborn is deemed to be severely deformed. 99% of those who claim to be pro-choice would not have a problem with those limitations. Saying no choice before a woman so much as knows she is pregnant is asinine. The right likes to claim that those who are pro-choice don't have a problem with an abortion right up until the 9th month and that is pure bullshit.

 

[Port Tack]

What does she offer pro choice Independents?

At least a 15 week time limit with exceptions for rape, incest, life of the mother or a deformed fetus. That is not unreasonable. The MAGA shithead will refuse to vote for her so it makes no difference.

Republicans will lose without the MAGA shithead and they will lose with Trump because too many self respecting republicans will not for for him.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Nothing in the 14th amendment says the person must be convicted to be removed from a state ballot.

“Election officials and judges can conclude on their own that Trump’s conduct met the constitutional standard for disqualification". “Excluding someone from office is not a criminal penalty and thus does not require a ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ standard of proof.”

Fine.

If Georgia keeps Trump off the ballot then Texas and Florida will keep Biden off the ballot.

Back at ya.

That's not how it works.

 

[Port Tack]

You retard, the Constitution, and every state presumes innocence until proven guilty. You on the other hand, along with the TDS tard crowd presume Trump is guilty of all 90 whatever charges already and that the court process is just a formality. It's that simple.

The constitution says nothing of the sort. It says if you engaged in trying to overthrow our country and steal an election (insurrection) you are ineligible and it says nothing about being found guilty of anything.

Only a MAGA shithead could possibly believe Trump did not actively engage in that.

 

[Port Tack]

Leftists HATE due process almost as much as they HATE blacks and America.

Leftists want the questions and due process to take place well before the election so this question is answered. It is the right that would like due process postponed so their shithead isn't found guilty and removed without question.

Black Americans are by far the most unified racial group in American electoral politics, with 80 to 90 percent identifying as Democrats To say the Democrat hates blacks is not only asinine it is an insult to the black race. Every single openly racist group in this country endorses the republican candidate in every election.

 

[Port Tack]

For them, legal proceedings are based on Stalin and Kafka...

Then I suppose you want these trials to get underway ASAP so your fuhrers name can be cleared?

 

[Port Tack]

Here is part of post #52 which you posted:

"They obviously do not decide based on hair color, they decide based on the qualification requirements. The federal government has some qualification requirements, for example, you must be 35, and born in the United States, and the states themselves have requirements, some states require you to have a certain number of names on a petition, some require you have a major party, backing, and others may have other requirements I don’t know about."

You make excellent points here that the secretaries of state make the decision who is qualified to be on the ballot. You name age And birth place, names on a petition and other things unknown to you. No problems thus far. I would also suspect youd say that another qualification would be not to have engaged in insurrection. True? I think so so will press on.

Now each of the others, age, birth place etc etc can be verified through evidence such as a birth certificate, a petition of names but how does one prove they have not been engaged in an insurrection. I submit not having a conviction would be one from of proof otherwise without a conviction it's only an opinion that someone engaged in an insurrection.

I would also assume that being charged with 100 felonies means you need that "not guilty" verdict BEFORE your name goes on a ballot. No sense putting a name of someone who constitutionally cannot serve on a ballot if found guilty of pending charges.

 

[Port Tack]

Don't know, don't care. I really do not give a shit about his legal problems beyond trolling all you TDS'ers out there. I love watching you hand wring and gossip over each detail like it actually matters.

Only the MAGA shithead has TDS.

 

[Port Tack]

Depends on his opponent. In this case, a match up between Trump, an arrogant asshole and Biden a tool of the radical Left, I'd vote for Trump. There is nothing more destructive to a nation than having a hardcore Leftist running it, NOTHING.

There you have TDS defined to a tee! Someone who openly admits that they would vote for Trump, a convicted felon, after being found guilty of crimes against the state. Also accurately defined as a MAGA shithead.

 

[Port Tack]

The people controlling him are, and that shows in the programs and regulations he's pushed out.

What regulations? And don't try oil production, we are pumping more oil today than at any time under your velveeta man.

 

[Port Tack]

Innocent until proven guilty

If you are innocent until proven guilty what are you if you have not so much as been charged?

 

[Port Tack]

The above is another example of a Trump hating TDSer who believes in guilty until proven innocent, and the efficacy of using show trials to punish their political enemies...

Where did that poster so much as mention "guilty until proven innocent"? Only a MAGA shithead with sever TDS can conclude that from that post.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

The constitution says nothing of the sort. It says if you engaged in trying to overthrow our country and steal an election (insurrection) you are ineligible and it says nothing about being found guilty of anything.

Only a MAGA shithead could possibly believe Trump did not actively engage in that.

Oh, so guilt is assumed when you are charged with something, and you are going to court to prove your innocence are you? Bet that's news to 99.9% of Americans...