The “lock her up” crowd…

QP! said:
As Bill Barr said 'almost every Fraud charge or Conspiracy charge ever filed relies on speech as the basis for the charge. But the crime is not the speech. It is just that speech, that would not be indicted is used to foment actions that are indictable'.,

(*my paraphrase)


So no. You are now in Tinker like stupidity, or worse as a claimed lawyer, to NOT understand, that Trump is NOT being charged with lying.
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all of the charges are based on saying something that he knew wasn't true.......are you idiots trying to change the definition of lying next?......
 
Nordberg said:
Polls a year and a half before the election are meaningless. Anyone following politics knows that.
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No they aren't because they show a trend.

We can see how people are leaning at this point.

You aren't polling on what actual results will be but how people are feeling at the moment.

Combine enough polls and you get a better idea of the direction people may go.

It's like polling people to see if they think AI will be a problem in the future, you get an idea of the overall opinion.

You don't have to wait for the AI to be developed to poll them.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
The polls say otherwise.

He is in a dead heat with Biden currently.
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Ya almost all of the Congressional seats showed very close races, in what was supposed to be a Red Wave and yet TrumpDerps lost pretty much every race, defying the odds in mathematics that with so many close races they should have got some of them.


the best part was always when it came to Trump and his endorsed derp candidates, it was shown that Republicans on the tickets for things like Governor or other positions who were not Trump Derps won handily. Meaning people showed up to vote who were republican but split the ticket refusing to vote for Trump and his derps.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
are you kidding?.....Progressives are for no bail, no prosecution, no police.......
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So again do you now support more Prosecution reform?

Are you moving more towards the progressive side? Seems like you are arguing for more restrictions on prosecutions and limiting prosecutors powers more.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
No they aren't because they show a trend.

We can see how people are leaning at this point.

You aren't polling on what actual results will be but how people are feeling at the moment.

Combine enough polls and you get a better idea of the direction people may go.

It's like polling people to see if they think AI will be a problem in the future, you get an idea of the overall opinion.

You don't have to wait for the AI to be developed to poll them.
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Trump cannot win the GOP nomination in 2016 or so say the polls in the year lead up to it.

Trump cannot beat Hilary or any Dem in 2016, or so say the polls in the year lead up before the 2016 Ge.


Do you hold to your point those polls matter because they show a trend?

Or do you think those polls were pretty worthless a year out before people actually had to make a choice?
 
Tinkerpeach said:
I never claimed that.

I said those are the categories the charges fall under.
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Tinkerpeach said:
Exactly my point yet those are the types of things he's being charged with isn't it?

Do you get the point yet?

The 31 counts in the Washington case fall under two categories, conspiracy and obstruction.

That's it, those should be the only two charges against him in that case.

They both cover everything that happened yet Smith has broken them down further into 29 more separate charges all of which would be covered under the first two charges.

This is a main reason why Smith's case is so weak.
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It sure looks like that is exactly what you claimed. I challenge anyone to read that and not see you claiming 31 counts were charged in Washington.
 
QP! said:
Trump cannot win the GOP nomination in 2016 or so say the polls in the year lead up to it.

Trump cannot beat Hilary or any Dem in 2016, or so say the polls in the year lead up before the 2016 Ge.


Do you hold to your point those polls matter because they show a trend?

Or do you think those polls were pretty worthless a year out before people actually had to make a choice?
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Some polls were dead on predicting Trump would win the nomination.

538 only gave him a 2% chance and publicly admitted they screwed up.

Pollsters make mistakes based on their methodology.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
Some polls were dead on predicting Trump would win the nomination.

538 only gave him a 2% chance and publicly admitted they screwed up.

Pollsters make mistakes based on their methodology.
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The felon Trump can definitely win.

The potential for America to make existential mistakes is now proven.

Partition the republic for the sake of decency if nothing else.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
They are.

He has 78 federal charges filed against him, that's insane.

If convicted on them all it's 641 years in prison and for doing what?

This whole thing is a plot by the left to take out a political rival who they know is going to win the election
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You'll have to read the indictment for the answers. I know that reading more than a page is hard work for you, but I'm sure you can manage.
 
QP! said:
So again do you now support more Prosecution reform?

Are you moving more towards the progressive side? Seems like you are arguing for more restrictions on prosecutions and limiting prosecutors powers more.
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you seem a bit dense.....yes, I support prosecution reform......the exact opposite of what progressives support.....I would only limit the office of prosecutors to those who feel it is proper to prosecute.....no soft on crime lib'ruls......
 
Tinkerpeach said:
Three cases but 78 charges with a penalty of 641 years if convicted on them all.

You don't find that a bit extreme?

Serial killers don't get that much time.
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ROFLMAO. The maximum sentence for a serial killer accused of 3 murders is being put to death 3 times. The maximum sentence for a serial killer accused of 12 murders is being put to death 12 times.

Only repeat offenders ever get sentenced to the max for all their crimes.

Not only can't you keep 3 things straight, you can't understand simple things about the US Justice system.
 
QP! said:
So again do you now support more Prosecution reform?

Are you moving more towards the progressive side? Seems like you are arguing for more restrictions on prosecutions and limiting prosecutors powers more.
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And the right-wing wants to defund the FBI.
 
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