Slavery was horrific

[Margot]

Yes, it's illiterate gibberish.

There is no word "AM's" in the English dictionary.

AM I is used here as a Noun! Example!
"Before Abraham I AM".

 

[Earl]

No I used ! On purpose!

And incorrectly.

 

[Earl]

AM I is used here as a Noun! Example!
"Before Abraham I AM".

There is no word "AM's" in the English dictionary.

 

[Margot]

There is no word "AM's" in the English dictionary.

You need a better dictionary! I gave you an example, you don't seem to comprehend that either?!

 

[Earl]

OK, so let's go to the next question.

What kind of engineer are you,

O, OO, or HO gauge?

Do you have one of those gray-striped caps?

RB 60 just educated you.

"EE" Electrical Engineer. BSEE.

 

[Earl]

You need a better dictionary! I gave you an example, you don't seem to comprehend that either?!

Post a dictionary that shows "AM's" as an abbreviation.

 

[RB 60]

OK, so let's go to the next question.

What kind of engineer are you,

O, OO, or HO gauge?

Do you have one of those gray-striped caps?

Amazon has them!

$19.95

 

[christiefan915]

You really think lazy ass Europeans trumped though the jungle chasing down black people?

Of course not, they picked them up on the beach, paid some money or trade and went on their way.

"Picked them up on the beach" is the sanitized way of saying kidnapped and sold into slavery. They weren't seashells, Tinker.

 

[christiefan915]

Not with me,....I condemned it right away. For a pittance of what we spend on Ukraine in a month we can go into parts of Africa and shut down the slave trade in short order. Lightweights.

^That sounds like we can invade a sovereign nation and take out those we believe are the bad guys. IOW, what we did in Iraq.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

No one who writes about inflicting civilian collateral damage should ever be allowed to own a firearm

and this is why it's impossible to debate with you idiots. you take something that was said and you change it to your own context, or you listen to morons like dutch who changes it and you run with it.

but you're welcome to come try and take mine from me if you think i shouldn't have them.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

That's usually a good defense! But not in the case of slavery!

when it was a common practice all over the world, yes, it is a good defense.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

No one who writes about inflicting civilian collateral damage should ever be allowed to own a firearm

This kind of hysteria over firearms in general is why we can't get rid of assault weapons.

You let the reichnuts convince people that we're going after all private ownership of firearms.

 

[christiefan915]

After they were freed and the war was over some of them wanted to return to the same plantations.

That is just a fact of history.

Most of the slaves had very few good options after the war was over and also, if you know anything about African history, life in Africa was not that great for many people during the slave trade era.

It was extremely violent and harsh.

While nobody likes to be owned sometimes it comes down to the lesser of two evils.

The people in Africa were not living in the Lion King movie.

You're making an "out of the frying pan, into the fire" argument IMO... trading one bad existence for another.

Slaves were considered property and treated as such. Most were illiterate and had no skills other than performing brute labor. They dreamed of a free existence but didn't understand the reality of it for themselves. A freed slave couldn't take his resume to another state and get hired as a bookkeeper, for example, nor could he open his own business without seed money. Perhaps returning to the plantation came after they became homeless and starving.

Take a trip through the southeast US and stop at all the historical sites in the slave-owning states. Your eyes will be opened to the harsh conditions slaves endured for the price of a roof over their head.

And I won't even go into the other kind of mistreatment slaves or ex-slaves were subject to, such as being considered sub-human.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

"Picked them up on the beach" is the sanitized way of saying kidnapped and sold into slavery. They weren't seashells, Tinker.

Of course not, they were considered property sold by or traded for by black tribes in Africa.

The European slave traders, and later the American slave traders, never had to go round them up.

Slaves were generally people who were captured by other tribes in conflict or those who had committed crimes against the tribe.

 

[RB 60]

This kind of hysteria over firearms in general is why we can't get rid of assault weapons.

You let the reichnuts convince people that we're going after all private ownership of firearms.

Back when I shot competitively, there were Democrats who said those same things. Especially those who used M1-As (which, BTW, is considered an "assault weapon").

 

[Tinkerpeach]

You're making an "out of the frying pan, into the fire" argument IMO... trading one bad existence for another.

Slaves were considered property and treated as such. Most were illiterate and had no skills other than performing brute labor. They dreamed of a free existence but didn't understand the reality of it for themselves. A freed slave couldn't take his resume to another state and get hired as a bookkeeper, for example, nor could he open his own business without seed money. Perhaps returning to the plantation came after they became homeless and starving.

Take a trip through the southeast US and stop at all the historical sites in the slave-owning states. Your eyes will be opened to the harsh conditions slaves endured for the price of a roof over their head.

And I won't even go into the other kind of mistreatment slaves or ex-slaves were subject to, such as being considered sub-human.

I know all of this.

The North may have freed them but they didn't want them migrating up there either.

This was the reconstruction period and what ultimately led to what we consider black society today.

Blacks were not allowed to assimilate and left to fend for themselves after slavery.

 

[christiefan915]

How's that ever going to happen?

It's not. That's the point. IMO talking about reparations is just a deflection from the topic about slavery being horrific. Owning another human being but treating him as sub-human property was horrific whether it was 200 or 2000 years ago. The fact that some slaves had it better than others is irrelevant. It was like keeping your tools in working order. Slaveholders worried about the bottom line, period. They could have hired and paid individuals to do the work that slaves did for nothing, but they didnt.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Back when I shot competitively, there were Democrats who said those same things. Especially those who used M1-As (which, BTW, is considered an "assault weapon").

The .30-06 Garand had a small capacity top-loading magazine which makes it no more dangerous than a hunting rifle.
My Ruger M44 carbine loads that way, only with shorter revolver cartridges [albeit big fucking ones].

The The M1-A .308 rifle, similar to an M-14, if I'm thinking of the right thing,
is in fact an assault rifle that also probably doesn't belong in civilian hands.

Clip-in magazines that hold many rounds and are easily popped in by somebody carrying ten of them
are, and you know this, a totally different ballgame.

Argue with a typical lib who has no guns!

 

[martin]

No I used ! On purpose!

Earl has no ideas so he works at being a pedant.

 

[Earl]

Earl has no ideas so he works at being a pedant.

I know that an interrogatory requires a question mark.

You don’t have to work very hard to be a pedant and you don’t display academic learning.

Poor Marty.