The Humanities Are Worth Fighting For

Cypress said:
Rightwing talk radio convinced MAGA morons that there are actually things like basket weaving majors.
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Not really. But if you accumulate 75K of debt getting a degree in black or gender studies and end up a barista at a coffee shop, don't ask me to pay off your student loans. Psychology is another hoax. My niece is the head of the HR department for a rather large company. She got there with a high school diploma, 8 years of experience, and four 20 something college boys and girls with psychology degrees getting fired because they didn't have the chops.

It's only people who never went to college who believe there is this universe of useless degrees out there.
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Oh, on the contrary! Most of those useless degrees serve to keep humanities majors grads employed as race and gender studies professors! (and music and art, which I love)

Every history major I know ended up with a white collar professional career.
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Are they working in the "history" field? Or maybe they have multiple degrees that might be more "white collar professional" lucrative?

Harrison Ford famously was a philosophy major.
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He was also a very good carpenter, by some reports. It's how he supported his family before star wars.

Liberal arts grads may not necessarily get a job directly related to their degree. But attaining the bachelor's degree in humanities teaches one self discipline, analytical and research skills, writing and communication skills, language and social networking skills
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This is where I agree with you, to an extent.

Majors Offered at The USAF Academy

Aeronautical Engineering
Data Science
Mathematics
Astronautical Engineering
Economics
Mechanical Engineering
Behavioral Sciences
Electrical Engineering
Meteorology
Biology
English & Fine Arts
Military & Strategic Studies
Chemistry
Foreign Area Studies
Operations Research
Civil Engineering
Geospatial Science
Philosophy
Computer Engineering
History
Physics
Computer Science
Legal Studies
Political Science
Cyber Science
Management
Systems Engineering

The bolded red majors are humanities, (except maybe political science which is about as INhuman as you can get) and believe me, the military would not offer these disciplines if their officers could not put them to good use. English & Fine Arts? Military officers must be able to communicate simply and effectively. Field and flag grade officers are often unofficial diplomats, and insights into how foreign government officials interact with their own country's arts and history can be very useful, especially in the gathering of intelligence (which in that arena, even psychology proves invaluable).

West Point graduated 15 political science majors last year (down from 32 the previous year). And I may be a little cynical, but I believe most of these people are going to be the future generals up on the hill begging for money, and eventually they will be the elected officials deciding where the money goes. So yeah, military officers, especially the top brass, need to know how the swamp works.

So are the "humanities" relevant in in 2023? I think the applications are very narrow, and prospective students and their cash cow parents need to understand how these can possibly be applied to vocations that will make money instead of being a burden on society when you make ME pay off some jerks student loans.
 
Callinectes said:
Not really. But if you accumulate 75K of debt getting a degree in black or gender studies and end up a barista at a coffee shop, don't ask me to pay off your student loans. Psychology is another hoax. My niece is the head of the HR department for a rather large company. She got there with a high school diploma, 8 years of experience, and four 20 something college boys and girls with psychology degrees getting fired because they didn't have the chops.



Oh, on the contrary! Most of those useless degrees serve to keep humanities majors grads employed as race and gender studies professors! (and music and art, which I love)



Are they working in the "history" field? Or maybe they have multiple degrees that might be more "white collar professional" lucrative?



He was also a very good carpenter, by some reports. It's how he supported his family before star wars.



This is where I agree with you, to an extent.

Majors Offered at The USAF Academy

Aeronautical Engineering
Data Science
Mathematics
Astronautical Engineering
Economics
Mechanical Engineering
Behavioral Sciences
Electrical Engineering
Meteorology
Biology
English & Fine Arts
Military & Strategic Studies
Chemistry
Foreign Area Studies
Operations Research
Civil Engineering
Geospatial Science
Philosophy
Computer Engineering
History
Physics
Computer Science
Legal Studies
Political Science
Cyber Science
Management
Systems Engineering

The bolded red majors are humanities, (except maybe political science which is about as INhuman as you can get) and believe me, the military would not offer these disciplines if their officers could not put them to good use. English & Fine Arts? Military officers must be able to communicate simply and effectively. Field and flag grade officers are often unofficial diplomats, and insights into how foreign government officials interact with their own country's arts and history can be very useful, especially in the gathering of intelligence (which in that arena, even psychology proves invaluable).

West Point graduated 15 political science majors last year (down from 32 the previous year). And I may be a little cynical, but I believe most of these people are going to be the future generals up on the hill begging for money, and eventually they will be the elected officials deciding where the money goes. So yeah, military officers, especially the top brass, need to know how the swamp works.

So are the "humanities" relevant in in 2023? I think the applications are very narrow, and prospective students and their cash cow parents need to understand how these can possibly be applied to vocations that will make money instead of being a burden on society when you make ME pay off some jerks student loans.
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Most student loan debt, quantitatively, are in medicine, law, and business.
 
BidenPresident said:
Most student loan debt, quantitatively, are in medicine, law, and business.
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And I don't want to pay THEIR student loans either. Medicine, law, and business are potentially very lucrative pursuits. Sometimes it's wasted too. Fucking obama paid for his harvard law education with frugality, student loans (which he evidently paid back, to his credit), and VERY well paying summer law associate gigs. Then he goes back to chicago and becomes a community organizer...again.
 
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Callinectes said:
Not really. But if you accumulate 75K of debt getting a degree in black or gender studies and end up a barista at a coffee shop, don't ask me to pay off your student loans. Psychology is another hoax. My niece is the head of the HR department for a rather large company. She got there with a high school diploma, 8 years of experience, and four 20 something college boys and girls with psychology degrees getting fired because they didn't have the chops.

oh, on the contrary! Most of those useless degrees serve to keep humanities majors grads employed as race and gender studies professors! (and music and art, which I love)



Are they working in the "history" field? Or maybe they have multiple degrees that might be more "white collar professional" lucrative?



He was also a very good carpenter, by some reports. It's how he supported his family before star wars.



This is where I agree with you, to an extent.

Majors Offered at The USAF Academy

Aeronautical Engineering
Data Science
Mathematics
Astronautical Engineering
Economics
Mechanical Engineering
Behavioral Sciences
Electrical Engineering
Meteorology
Biology
English & Fine Arts
Military & Strategic Studies
Chemistry
Foreign Area Studies
Operations Research
Civil Engineering
Geospatial Science
Philosophy
Computer Engineering
History
Physics
Computer Science
Legal Studies
Political Science
Cyber Science
Management
Systems Engineering

The bolded red majors are humanities, (except maybe political science which is about as INhuman as you can get) and believe me, the military would not offer these disciplines if their officers could not put them to good use. English & Fine Arts? Military officers must be able to communicate simply and effectively. Field and flag grade officers are often unofficial diplomats, and insights into how foreign government officials interact with their own country's arts and history can be very useful, especially in the gathering of intelligence (which in that arena, even psychology proves invaluable).

West Point graduated 15 political science majors last year (down from 32 the previous year). And I may be a little cynical, but I believe most of these people are going to be the future generals up on the hill begging for money, and eventually they will be the elected officials deciding where the money goes. So yeah, military officers, especially the top brass, need to know how the swamp works.

So are the "humanities" relevant in in 2023? I think the applications are very narrow, and prospective students and their cash cow parents need to understand how these can possibly be applied to vocations that will make money instead of being a burden on society when you make ME pay off some jerks student loans.
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There are less than 3000 degrees in gender and ethnic studies awarded each year our of a total of 1,650,000 total degrees awarded each year.

That's 0.18 percent of all degrees. A tiny, tiny fraction of way less than one percent.

Rightwing radio and Fox made a gigantic mountain out of a tiny little molehill .

https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d11/tables/dt11_290.asp
 
BidenPresident said:
Then why does it take decades for them to pay it back, if at all?
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Deferred during residency, the low interest rates are a tax write off. No reason to pay any more than the absolute minimum.
I know a guy in his 60’s still paying his. He says it makes no sense financially to pay it off. I think he pays like $100/mo. Peanuts for him.
 
anonymoose said:
Deferred during residency, the low interest rates are a tax write off. No reason to pay any more than the absolute minimum.
I know a guy in his 60’s still paying his. He says it makes no sense financially to pay it off. I think he pays like $100/mo. Peanuts for him.
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Thread is about the Humanities. As usual, you blather about everything besides the topic. And I don't give a shit about someone you know.
 
I got more and better humanities on my own than I could’ve learned in college.
Self learned German, some Italian having lived there. Spent a day at the Van Gogh Museum and The Louvre.
Play intermediate to advanced intermediate classical piano, never had a lesson.
I get all the history I want from books.
Piss off.
 
anonymoose said:
I got more and better humanities on my own than I could’ve learned in college.
Self learned German, some Italian having lived there. Spent a day at the Van Gogh Museum and The Louvre.
Play intermediate to advanced intermediate classical piano, never had a lesson.
I get all the history I want from books.
Piss off.
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Yet you are a fucking moron.
 
BidenPresident said:
Those who blame presentism or “wokeness” for the increased absence of traditional humanities in classrooms misdiagnose the problem. The idea that students are turned off by cultural studies and would return to a classical education is laughable and easily disproven by existing course enrollment trends.

In my elite university, some students tell me that they never read a book before college, or took an art history class, and certainly never learned any history outside the US context. Even cinema studies, whose teaching was at some point denounced as too great an accommodation to the popular, is a deeply esoteric subject to them.

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/the-humanities-are-worth-fighting-for/
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If you're too stupid to do college level math/physics, what choice do you have, except a worthless "English" degree?

Morons need something to do after high school, too.
 
Something right wingers cannot comprehend:

Who teaches English in high schools? Where did they get the credentials to teach English? Stumped?!
 
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