Would Russia have attacked Ukraine if….

ExpressLane said:
Russia thought they would crush Ukraine in less than 2 weeks. It's been over 500 days and Russia is backed into a defensive position. There are blown up Russian tanks all over Ukraine. :laugh:
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Russia is generally not trying to take territory, they are trying to get the West to the negotiating table by rubleizing Ukraine and killing Ukrainians. As I have mentioned before you have not the first clue what is going on.
 
ExpressLane said:
Russia thought they would crush Ukraine in less than 2 weeks. It's been over 500 days and Russia is backed into a defensive position. There are blown up Russian tanks all over Ukraine. :laugh:
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They were not trying to take Ukraine, they were trying to force Ukraine to be neutral and to stop attacking ethnic Russians....they almost got there but as you should know (one hopes, you are so ignorant on this subject) the West talked Ukraine into doing military action instead. There are signs that now that Ukraine is largely destroyed and running out of military men that the West is wanting to negotiate a way out, but the Russians are less interested in negotiations now, the eventual peace settlement will be more in Russias favor than was the deal that was rejected by Ukraine.
 
We should also mention that Russia has been very clear that there will be no peace until there is regime change in Kiev.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
They were not trying to take Ukraine, they were trying to force Ukraine to be neutral and to stop attacking ethnic Russians....they almost got there but as you should know (one hopes, you are so ignorant on this subject) the West talked Ukraine into doing military action instead. There are signs that now that Ukraine is largely destroyed and running out of military men that the West is wanting to negotiate a way out, but the Russians are less interested in negotiations now, the eventual peace settlement will be more in Russias favor than was the deal that was rejected by Ukraine.
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:rofl2: Is that why Zelenski said I don't need a ride I need weapons. Hawk you sure do have revisionist history :rofl2: BTW Ukraine has more soldiers in Ukraine than Russia does. Remember the rule of thumb is that an invader needs to have 3 times as many men as someone defending home turf. Russia is woefully short on men in the field.
 
ExpressLane said:
:rofl2: Is that why Zelenski said I don't need a ride I need weapons. Hawk you sure do have revisionist history :rofl2:
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You are mistaken.

Russia and Ukraine may have agreed on a tentative deal to end the war in April, according to a recent piece in Foreign Affairs.

“Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement,” wrote Fiona Hill and Angela Stent. “Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.”

The news highlights the impact of former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s efforts to stop negotiations, as journalist Branko Marcetic noted on Twitter. The decision to scuttle the deal coincided with Johnson’s April visit to Kyiv, during which he reportedly urged Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to break off talks with Russia for two key reasons: Putin cannot be negotiated with, and the West isn’t ready for the war to end.
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https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2...hy-did-the-west-stop-a-peace-deal-in-ukraine/
 
Reportedly Johnson told the Kiev regime something to the effect "I am delivering this message from Washington which is supported by NATO....if you sign this peace deal then you are dead to us...but if you dont and take on Russia militarily, and you can beat them, you will be supplied all the arms and intel you need to make it happen....you have a blank check".

However, Ukraine now feels that we did not keep our word....we did not supply enough...and a lot of what we have supplied has not been very good....too old, too complicated, too heavy and so on.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
They haven't held Russia back at all.

If you follow this you'd know that Russia is not pushing for more territory, they set up defenses and are letting the idiot Ukranians waste their people and equipment on their fortified lines.
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Hahaha!
 
Grokmaster said:

Biden and Obama are who disarmed Ukraine in the first place, and refused to send them weapons. It was Trump who sent them weapons, instead of toiletries, like Obama/Biden did.

The attack would have never happened if illegal mail in ballots had not taken Trump away as CIC.
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This post is absolute and total BS. If it's not BS then prove what you posted.
 
Jarod said:
Would Russia have attack Ukraine if Republicans have not spent so much time and money trying to make Biden look week?

Obviously, Putin greatly miss-calculated Biden’s resolve and strength, why did he do that?

Seems to me the blood of many Ukrainians is on the hands of the American Republican party. I know most Republicans don’t care.
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The more salient question is, how did the illiterate OP manage to make three (3) grammatical mistakes in a three (3) sentence thread?
 
Earl said:
The more salient question is, how did the illiterate OP manage to make three (3) grammatical mistakes in a three (3) sentence thread?
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Because I do not care about grammar. DO NOT CARE!
 
Trumpet said:
Earl, who appointed you grammar police??????
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Young people read these threads, Trumper.

With the miserable education that they are now receiving, they can barely read and write when they graduate from high school.

They have to take remedial English in college.

They deserve the most pristine grammar and syntax that we can muster.
 
Earl said:
Young people read these threads, Trumper.

With the miserable education that they are now receiving, they can barely read and write when they graduate from high school.

They have to take remedial English in college.

They deserve the most pristine grammar and syntax that we can muster.
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It’s pure elitism… I can write in the code someone decided was “correct”, it shows off my “education” and makes people think I’m smart…
 
Jarod said:
Because I do not care about grammar. DO NOT CARE!
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In sentence-style capitalization, you capitalize only the first word of a sentence or phrase and proper nouns.

You must not care that anyone who reads your trash thinks you are at the middle school level.
 
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