Supreme Court rules businesses can refuse service to LGBTQ+ customers

Beautiful, you didn’t even read the article you offered:

“The artwork that I create is speech," Smith told Colorado Public Radio in December, adding that, "those messages must be consistent with my convictions”

“The First Amendment envisions the United States as a rich and complex place where all persons are free to speak as they wish, not as the government demands. Colorado cannot deny that promise consistent with the First Amendment," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion.”

“The opportunity to think for ourselves and to express those thoughts freely is among our most cherished liberties and part of what keeps our Republic strong," Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion.”

https://www.axios.com/2023/06/30/supreme-court-lgbtq-wedding-website

It is speech, speech, which creates an array of issues going forward with the possibility of two constitutional rights conflicting
 
archives said:
Beautiful, you didn’t even read the article you offered:

“The artwork that I create is speech," Smith told Colorado Public Radio in December, adding that, "those messages must be consistent with my convictions”

“The First Amendment envisions the United States as a rich and complex place where all persons are free to speak as they wish, not as the government demands. Colorado cannot deny that promise consistent with the First Amendment," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion.”

“The opportunity to think for ourselves and to express those thoughts freely is among our most cherished liberties and part of what keeps our Republic strong," Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion.”

https://www.axios.com/2023/06/30/supreme-court-lgbtq-wedding-website

It is speech, speech, which creates an array of issues going forward with the possibility of two constitutional rights conflicting
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It is speech


Ok cool...its my religious belief that I dont speak to Gays & Trans
 
archives said:
But that doesn’t mean you can blanketly refuse to do business with them because you don’t speak to them, like you would anyways
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Businesses can refuse to serve same-sex couples if doing so would violate the owners' religious beliefs, the Supreme Court ruled on Friday.


Its my religious belief not to do business with Gays
 
If a business wants to refuse service to gays or anyone else, they should have a large sign saying so in their window. Then a gay does not have to face being embarrassed by a bigot and thrown out. Of course, people offended by such owners would also pass them by. But if you really believe, then it is no problem.
 
I support this decision.

It doesn't mean that a restaurant or a store or business office can refuse to allow gays to enter or be served.

But if a product involves any kind of creative or artistic expression in which gayness has to be promoted or applauded, the creator of that work can refuse to produce it.

AND THAT IS AS IT SHOULD BE.
 
SCOTUS decisions often give the right to asshole states to continue to be asshole states [ie, red states].

When their decisions impact the entire nation, that's when they're at their most dangerous.

Trumpanzees are the reason behind this court.
They are irredeemable.
Anybody who doesn't viscerally hate them is also irredeemable.

To err is human,
but to err that much is to be a malignant mutant.

And to forgive them should never be our policy.
 
Religion as an excuse for discrimination. A slippery slope.

In this country, businesses operate in a secular world. Secular laws rule. If one wishes to operate as a religious entity, one can simply claim as such for tax purposes and discriminate using whatever laws their particular religion allows.

And we thought Citizens United where “corporations are people” was goofy? LOL
 
archives said:
Only if it appears in conflict with free speech, you didn’t even read case did you
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WRONG!!!!

The 1st amendment applies only to the federal government. The Supreme Court made this ruling in accordance with the 14th amendment, not the 1st amendment. The 14th amendment DOES apply to the States.
Further, this case involved the State of Colorado forcing a person to construct a website that is against his religious beliefs, similar to the way it forced a person to bake a cake for a 'wedding' that is against his religious beliefs.
In doing so, Colorado not only violated the 14th amendment, they violated the Constitution of the State of Colorado article II, Sections 4, 10, and 29.
 
archives said:
Beautiful, you didn’t even read the article you offered:

“The artwork that I create is speech," Smith told Colorado Public Radio in December, adding that, "those messages must be consistent with my convictions”

“The First Amendment envisions the United States as a rich and complex place where all persons are free to speak as they wish, not as the government demands. Colorado cannot deny that promise consistent with the First Amendment," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion.”

“The opportunity to think for ourselves and to express those thoughts freely is among our most cherished liberties and part of what keeps our Republic strong," Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion.”

https://www.axios.com/2023/06/30/supreme-court-lgbtq-wedding-website

It is speech, speech, which creates an array of issues going forward with the possibility of two constitutional rights conflicting
Click to expand...

Colorado is not subject to the 1st amendment. No State is. The 1st amendment only applies to the federal government.
Justice Neil Gorsuch has no authority to change any constitution.

That said, Colorado DID violate the 14th amendment, which DOES apply to the States. They also violated their own constitution in article II, Sections 4, 10, and 29.
 
volsrock said:
It is speech


Ok cool...its my religious belief that I dont speak to Gays & Trans
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It is not speech. It is the State attempting force a religious belief in conflict with a person's own religious belief. This is in direct violation of the Constitution of the State of Colorado. Further, it is applying the law unequally, in violation of the 14th amendment.
 
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