This is why, shit for brains!!
Lol. You have no clue what you’re looking at, do you, Jethro.
I’ll repeat. Methane is 30x stronger as a greenhouse gas than CO2.
https://www.ces.fau.edu/nasa/module-2/how-greenhouse-effect-works.php
Eat meat and save the environment
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Lol. You have no clue what you’re looking at, do you, Jethro.
I’ll repeat. Methane is 30x stronger as a greenhouse gas than CO2.
https://www.ces.fau.edu/nasa/module-2/how-greenhouse-effect-works.php
T. A. Gardner
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And water vapor, particularly as clouds, dwarfs them all
Sure does. But the concentration of water vapor is more dependent on temperature and is not one created by man made emissions.
T. A. Gardner
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Contrails are manmade, and reasonable climate scientists who don't have a political agenda are saying that as much as 20% of anthropogenic change is due to them. Interestingly, contrails have only been around since the mid 1930's as that was the point where aircraft could fly high enough to create them.
Climate Effects of Contrails Confirmed
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-effects-of-contra/
Plane Contrails Have a Surprising Effect on Global Warming
https://www.wired.com/story/plane-contrails-surprising-effect-global-warming/
Airlines are finally admitting contrails are an environmental problem
https://phys.org/news/2022-12-airlines-contrails-environmental-problem.html
The fix to this is relatively simple to implement. Just route aircraft around, above, or below altitudes and areas where contrails are forming. This has been suggested by serious climate people.
On the other hand, those with a political agenda with regard to climate change ignore this problem entirely because there is no money or power to be gained from fixing it. That should tell you something about who to believe when it comes to Gorebal Warming.
Interesting articles. Looks like easy fixes. Fly earlier rather than later. Fly higher. The contribution is then minimal.
T. A. Gardner
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Yep, but there's no money, control, or power in it. Easily done. Cheap to do. If it also fixes the problem, we could pull back bigtime on CO2 reduction allowing many more decades to do it at lower cost and without turning control of our lives over to government.
serendipity
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I see old cuntwhistle is back!
Yes, it’s true that livestock are sources of methane (natural gas). It’s also true that methane is technically a greenhouse gas that has about 20 times more heat trapping potential in an empty sky scenario than carbon dioxide.
But that’s about the end of the truth. There is no truth to the notion that livestock emissions of methane – or any emissions of methane at all – are warming the climate in any discernible way.
So how can methane be 20 times more potent that carbon dioxide yet have no meaningful real-world warming potential? The physics are really pretty simple.
Greenhouse gas theory holds that ultraviolet radiation from the Sun is absorbed by the Earth and then gets re-reradiated back to the atmosphere as infrared radiation.
But before the infrared radiation can escape into space, it is temporarily captured or absorbed by various gases in the atmosphere including water vapor, carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide and – yes – methane.
Here’s the rub, though.
There is only so much infrared radiation re-radiated back into the atmosphere, which makes sense since there is only so much ultraviolet radiation that reaches the Earth from the Sun. So the various greenhouse gases in the atmosphere “compete” to absorb the re-radiated infrared radiation. And some gases compete better than others based on their physical properties and quantities in the atmosphere.
In that competition, methane is a loser.
The chart below indicates the infrared absorption potential by the various greenhouse gases. Methane (CH4) looks like it has tremendous potential for infrared absorption – and it would in an atmosphere with water vapor or carbon dioxide.
https://junkscience.com/2020/01/the-meat-and-dairy-industry-is-irrelevant-to-climate/
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Junkscience is a pseudoscience, high quackery, right wing conspiracy site.
Predictable that you would cite it.
serendipity
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Predictable that you are unable to refute the science. It's pretty basic stuff but obviously above your paygrade.
You are told that the methane Global Warming Potential (GWP) is around 20 times that of carbon dioxide and has a retention time in the atmosphere of around 10 years before hydroxy ions remove it. What you are not told, because it's used as a weapon by lowlife politicians and the scumbag media, is that it is essentially harmless due to the IR photons from the Earth's surface being already absorbed by water vapour. Pretty obvious why, you have the likes of Bernie Sanders et al wanting to ban fracking and fossil fuels, and various vegan groups wanting to ban meat production.This is a the perfect weapon for them, even though it's ocean gong bullshit!!
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Geeko Sportivo
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We are all part of the food chain!
At least know where you fit in!
At least know where you fit in!
Dumbfuck, you had no clue what you were looking at when you posted the absorption spectrums of the greenhouse gases.
No coincidence that you would cite a pseudoscience, conspiracy site.
Run off kid. You’re late for your astrology class.
Then WHY do YOU continue to eat meat?
serendipity
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I've already told you enough times that I have a degree in pure chemistry. Here is something else for you to ignore!
Impact of methane exaggerated --- its effects are masked by H2O
Vice president of the Science and Environment Policy Project (SEPP) (4/11/2014, Dr.Tom Sheahan, “Methane: The Irrelevant Greenhouse Gas; Water vapor has already absorbed the very same infrared radiation that Methane might have absorbed,”
https://www.coursehero.com/file/152450648/Marist-r1-1NCdocx/
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serendipity
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ExpressLane
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The Jews did not think gentiles were clean. This passage is an allegory meant to tell Peter that the gentiles were not unclean and to take the message to the gentiles and Peter did. That is something that the Jews would not do before. The passage's true meaning is not about Peter's diet it is about taking the message to gentiles. .
Act 10:22
¶And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.
Act 10:23
Then called he them in, and lodged them. And on the morrow Peter went away with them, and certain brethren from Joppa accompanied him.
Cornelius (Greek: Κορνήλιος, romanized: Kornélios; Latin: Cornelius) was a Roman centurion who is considered by some Christians to be the first Gentile to convert to the faith
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Gondwanaland
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Nope, rather, I understand the actual nutritional science, unlike you.
ExpressLane
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Actually Guano is wrong. But what does he know. He doesn't even believe in Christ.Ahhh…that’s the truth there, guno. That’s definitely the truth. And I do like ham sandwiches.
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serendipity
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He used to never stop boasting about his wifi enabled charcoal oven that he used to smoke his pork.
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Yep. That’s all true. Still also makes the point that critters were made to be eaten.