Kakhovka Dam on Dnieper Ukraine failed/destroyed

Stone said:
You said something to the effect that it was a terrible atrocity,...a terrorist war crime. When it is PROVEN that Ukraine did it instead of Russia we will hold you to those words.
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If Ukraine did it, which is super highly likely, you can be sure that China has the proof, and is spreading it all around the world to global leaders. The world is rapidly turning against America, and our Failed Elite Class have given no indication that they understand this.

Big Pain Ahead.
 
Stone said:
You said something to the effect that it was a terrible atrocity,...a terrorist war crime. When it is PROVEN that Ukraine did it instead of Russia we will hold you to those words.
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Oh, dear. Do you know what words like "if," "likely" and "would be" infer?
 
BartenderElite said:
Eh, I don't know. If Russia did this intentionally, which is likely - it's a real crime against humanity. And it deserves to be viewed that way now, and by the history books.

It would be despicable on every level.
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Like I said,.....man up to your own words. Or are you REALLY saying that if Russia did it then it is a crime against Humanity but if Ukraine did it " highly likely btw" then it is perfectly ok? I mean,....you arent really saying THAT are you? :palm:
 
Stone said:
Like I said,.....man up to your own words. Or are you REALLY saying that if Russia did it then it is a crime against Humanity but if Ukraine did it " highly likely btw" then it is perfectly ok? I mean,....you arent really saying THAT are you? :palm:
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Wow - you really do have hard time w/ the language.

That's okay; it's no biggie. I believe that Russia is likely responsible - but I'm not like conservatives: I won't make definitive pronouncements without real evidence. It is irresponsible to do so.

In the unlikely event they find Ukraine responsible - the same applies. It's a war crime, and despicable.

What you take as "not manning up" is actually someone not doing a complete rush to judgment without real evidence. I get that this is now a foreign concept to the right.
 
BartenderElite said:
Wow - you really do have hard time w/ the language.

That's okay; it's no biggie. I believe that Russia is likely responsible - but I'm not like conservatives: I won't make definitive pronouncements without real evidence. It is irresponsible to do so.

In the unlikely event they find Ukraine responsible - the same applies. It's a war crime, and despicable.

What you take as "not manning up" is actually someone not doing a complete rush to judgment without real evidence. I get that this is now a foreign concept to the right.
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You said it was likely Russia did it and RIGHT NOW it deserves to be viewed that way as a crime against humanity. Words have meaning son. BTW,....Ukraine did it. ;)
 
Stone said:
You said it was likely Russia did it and RIGHT NOW it deserves to be viewed that way as a crime against humanity. Words have meaning son. BTW,....Ukraine did it. ;)
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Well, I'm glad we have YOU on record w/ that definitive pronouncement.

You're going for a "gotcha" that doesn't exist. It sounds a bit desperate. And your support of a murderous tyrant is once again noted.
 
Stone said:
You said it was likely Russia did it and RIGHT NOW it deserves to be viewed that way as a crime against humanity. Words have meaning son. BTW,....Ukraine did it. ;)
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Russia already had the Dam mined and threatened to blow it. Russia controlled the dam. Russia benefits from having it blown by protecting a portion of the conflict zone from mechanized attack. Russia has shown a callus disregard for the lives of the citizens and Russia has shown a willingness to destroy infrastructure . Also the nuke electric plant gets its water from there an supplies 55% of Ukraine's electricity . Until you can prove otherwise Russia did it. Oh yeah Russia's first cover story was rain weakened the dam until it collapsed on it's own. Then the videos leaked and Russia changed it's story.
 
ExpressLane said:
Russia already had the Dam mined and threatened to blow it. Russia controlled the dam. Russia benefits from having it blown by protecting a portion of the conflict zone from mechanized attack. Russia has shown a callus disregard for the lives of the citizens and Russia has shown a willingness to destroy infrastructure . Also the nuke electric plant gets its water from there an supplies 55% of Ukraine's electricity . Until you can prove otherwise Russia did it. Oh yeah Russia's first cover story was rain weakened the dam until it collapsed on it's own. Then the videos leaked and Russia changed it's story.
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Maybe so,...could well be. The main point Im making though is that it would be an atrocity no matter WHO did it, Whether it be Russia or Ukraine, .....not just if Russia did it.
 
Stone said:
Maybe so,...could well be. The main point Im making though is that it would be an atrocity no matter WHO did it, Whether it be Russia or Ukraine, .....not just if Russia did it.
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Alexander Mercouris of The Duran reports that some serious people wonder if this was a structural collapse. I must say that it does not seem likely to me, but the dam was known to be in poor condition, as much of Ukraine was before this conflict. Do not forget that Ukraine is very poor and outrageously corrupt, which is partly why the children who run American foreign policy had no trouble turning Ukraine into a battering ram against Russia.
 
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