New Obama plans: 'spend our way out' of downturn

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New Obama plans: 'spend our way out' of downturn

AP – President Barack Obama speaks on the economy at the Brookings Institution in Washington, Tuesday, Dec. … By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer Philip Elliott, Associated Press Writer – 28 mins ago
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama outlined major new government stimulus and jobs proposals on Tuesday, saying the nation must continue to "spend our way out of this recession."

Without giving a price tag, Obama proposed a package of new spending for highway, bridge and other infrastructure projects, deeper tax breaks for small businesses and tax incentives to encourage people to make their homes more energy efficient.

"We avoided the depression many feared," Obama said in a speech at the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank. But, he added, "Our work is far from done."

For the third time in a week, Obama sought to focus on job creation, noting that the jobless rate continues in double digits and that "a staggering" 7 million Americans have lost jobs since the recession began in December 2007.

While his proposal did not include the kind of direct federal public works jobs that were created in the 1930s, he said government could set the stage for more job creation by private businesses.

Obama did not characterize his proposals as another stimulus program, like the $787 billion version passed earlier this year, but Republican critics have called it just that and have said it will increase a federal deficit that is already at a record level.

Obama included sharp criticism for Republicans in his speech, accusing them of opposing economic stimulus efforts and his health care overhaul while supporting tax cuts and spending that have ballooned the deficit.

He said that soon after taking office, he and congressional Democrats took "a series of difficult steps" to try to stabilize the financial system and pull the economy out of a deep recession.

"And we were forced to take those steps largely without the help of an opposition party which, unfortunately, after having presided over the decision-making that led to the crisis, decided to hand it to others to solve."

Obama did not say how much his proposals would cost, although congressional Democrats are eyeing a $70 billion package to help create jobs and to provide aid to hard-pressed state and local governments. Administration aides suggested that the part of the package dealing with roads, bridges and other infrastructure could total about $50 billion.

While acknowledging increasing concerns in Congress and among the public over the nation's growing debt, Obama said critics present a "false choice" between paying down deficits and investing in job creation and economic growth.

To pay for the new programs, the administration is citing the Treasury Department's report on Monday that it expects to get back $200 billion in taxpayer-approved bank bailout funds faster than expected.

Obama suggested this windfall would both help the government spend money on job creation while also paying down the nation's $12 trillion debt.
 
Infrastructure is investing in our country.

I think we shoudl call it "investing out of the recession".
 
Its like the new deal.. Hopefully we actually get something tho like improved airports and bridges. Id love to see spending on more suburban to city rail and commuter systems within the cities. Also I would like to see more investment in new technologies. Its really the ONLY thing we have going for this country that we can export is are sweet higher education system. If we can keep the talent here to develop the new technologies we can then export them.
 
Its like the new deal.. Hopefully we actually get something tho like improved airports and bridges. Id love to see spending on more suburban to city rail and commuter systems within the cities. Also I would like to see more investment in new technologies. Its really the ONLY thing we have going for this country that we can export is are sweet higher education system. If we can keep the talent here to develop the new technologies we can then export them.

Anybody notice a big change in their town due to stimulus, not me.
 
It slowed the downturn.

you have zero clue what it would have been. Now Obama could be honest and say half the stimulus has been spent yet we didn't get the jobs by a few million. Therefore we should try something else. But no, let's do more failed democrat payoffs to special intrest groups.
 
Anybody notice a big change in their town due to stimulus, not me.

i have not benefited at all. in fact my neighbor got a big benefit because hes reckless and was late on his mortgage a few times and spend all his equity up.. so he qualified to get 30k shaved off his new artificially reduced loan even tho he makes more then me and has more thigns then me. I on the other hand am getting ready to close on a 10year 4.25% loan and I got nothing. I didnt even qualify to get a reduced closing fee because i have never been late on a payment. had i been late i would have qualified.
 
so we payed a bunch of Mayors to get their budgets ok. NO accountability no serious look at jobs created. And he wants billions more for the same admitedly failed policies. ROFL
 
He created way less jobs than his budget said and unemployment went up way more than he said it would if we didn't give him the emergency stimulus. LOFL
ZERO accountablilty
 
He created way less jobs than his budget said and unemployment went up way more than he said it would if we didn't give him the emergency stimulus. LOFL
ZERO accountablilty

Well, for starters, he didn't say 3 million jobs created in 7 months.

But, beyond that, you should be the last one complaining, stock man. If anyone benefited first, it was investors...
 
Well, for starters, he didn't say 3 million jobs created in 7 months.

But, beyond that, you should be the last one complaining, stock man. If anyone benefited first, it was investors...

what I said is he created less jobs than he promised.

he said unemployment would go above what 8.5% if we passed the stimulus.
It didn't work as planned by his own admission, as a successful investor I would change strategy. DUH
 
what I said is he created less jobs than he promised.

he said unemployment would go above what 8.5% if we passed the stimulus.
It didn't work as planned by his own admission, as a successful investor I would change strategy. DUH


Your issue seems to be with the baseline assumptions, not with the performance of the stimulus.
 
Your issue seems to be with the baseline assumptions, not with the performance of the stimulus.

I'm big tim pro Obama.
But I was big time against tarp and the stimulus. We were sold a bill of goods to save the kennedy's sailing buddies from having to liquidate their Martha's vineyard properties. You may be ok with tax dollars for that I'm not.


Fact, Obama warned of unemployment of about where we are now if we did nothing. He said it wouldn't get over about 8.5% if we gave him the trillion.
It didn't work as planned even he admits that, If you gotta guzzle the koolaid be my guest.

I said all along, you want to save the economy. Give each taxpayer about 25,000 like the chineese did with expirations on coupons etc. I'm much more a populist and progressive than an elitist like Obama when it comes to spending working peoples money.
 
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