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Into the Night said:
No, it doesn't. Murder is the intentional and offensive taking of a human life. It doesn't matter what state or country you're in. It is two murders, not one.
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Yes, it does. You didn't seem to understand what I posted about. It was about people being charged with murder of an unborn child. It depends on the state. Chris Watts was not charged with the murder of his unborn son in Colorado. Scott Peterson was charged with the murder of his unborn son in California. States have different rules on when murder of an unborn child applies.
 
Into the Night said:
No, it doesn't. Murder is the intentional and offensive taking of a human life. It doesn't matter what state or country you're in. It is two murders, not one.
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It was murder...in the one case mentioned Chris's Watts was not charged with the murder of the unborn son ...he was charged with unlawful termination of pregnancy which is just another way to say he murdered the unborn baby... feticide was mentioned... he received five life sentences with no chance of parole plus 80 some years so basically he was sentenced to murdering the entire family and that included The Unborn son...
 
No... The Unborn son's name was Nico... when he was terminated/ murdered..
Lacey Peterson's unborn son's name was Connor..
When he was murdered...
 
TOP said:
It was murder...in the one case mentioned Chris's Watts was not charged with the murder of the unborn son ...he was charged with unlawful termination of pregnancy which is just another way to say he murdered the unborn baby... feticide was mentioned... he received five life sentences with no chance of parole plus 80 some years so basically he was sentenced to murdering the entire family and that included The Unborn son...
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Yes, he was not charged with the murder of his unborn son. He was charged with murder for the 3 people he filled. I know how many sentences he received. That doesn't change the fact that he was not charged with the murder of the unborn baby. Just the others.
 
Timeless said:
I don't know of any states where murder is legal. Which ones has made murder legal?
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Murder is currently legal in the SOTNY and in the SDTC. It is also legal in Illinois, Minnesota, Oregon, Washington, New Jersey, Connecticut, Vermont, Nevada, Colorado, Kansas, Alaska, Michigan, Massachusetts, and Maine.
 
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Timeless said:
Yes, it does. You didn't seem to understand what I posted about. It was about people being charged with murder of an unborn child. It depends on the state. Chris Watts was not charged with the murder of his unborn son in Colorado. Scott Peterson was charged with the murder of his unborn son in California. States have different rules on when murder of an unborn child applies.
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Murder is legal in the SDTC. It does not change the fact that it's murder.
Murder is legal in Colorado. It does not change the fact that it's murder.
 
RB 60 said:
When you kill a pregnant woman and the child inside also dies, you are charged with 2 counts of murder. Is this wrong?
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Not in Colorado you aren't. The democrats were afraid that it would mean that the child inside was a person under the protections, thus making abortion naughty in their eyes. So, when we had a vote on whether to charge a person who killed someone's unborn, but wanted, progeny they (national democrats) spent millions in ads against it saying in a panicked voice (truly sounded terrified) that it was an attempt to ban abortions. This ad ignored the reality that this law passed in California and they charge folks with a second murder if the woman is pregnant and it hasn't stopped them from killing every unborn progeny they can legally kill for fistfuls of money.
 
PoliTalker said:
"Unborn son."

Hmmm. Isn't that something like calling an egg an

'Unborn chicken?'
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It's a bit different, you see. An unborn child is a HUMAN child. An unborn chicken in a fertilized is just a chicken. We raise chickens and harvest them all the time. Meanwhile, hens produce a lot of unfertilized eggs, which are not chickens, and which you see in the grocery store.

Someday you should study the life cycle of a chicken. You should also study the life cycle of a human being. Intentionally and offensively killing another human being is murder.
 
Damocles said:
Not in Colorado you aren't. The democrats were afraid that it would mean that the child inside was a person under the protections, thus making abortion naughty in their eyes. So, when we had a vote on whether to charge a person who killed someone's unborn, but wanted, progeny they (national democrats) spent millions in ads against it saying in a panicked voice (truly sounded terrified) that it was an attempt to ban abortions. This ad ignored the reality that this law passed in California and they charge folks with a second murder if the woman is pregnant and it hasn't stopped them from killing every unborn progeny they can legally kill for fistfuls of money.
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And yet murder is legal in the SDTC. It is legal for the mother to kill her own child.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hi Frank,



How about we put it like this?

"She who would bear the infant should be she who decides whether to proceed with a pregnancy or not."
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Sounds good to me. But the folk who want to pretend they care about kids...will think that to be objectionable. I just wish the people who so oppose a woman's right to choose...would be as militant about helping care for those kids in need of care. Ya know...the kids that actually are kids...born, and all that.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Sounds good to me. But the folk who want to pretend they care about kids...will think that to be objectionable. I just wish the people who so oppose a woman's right to choose...would be as militant about helping care for those kids in need of care. Ya know...the kids that actually are kids...born, and all that.
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