Did Biden really blow up NORDSTREAM? - Russia set to MOTHBALL damaged pipelines

Geeko Sportivo said:
I'm calling TOTAL BULLSHIT here about Green Energies being any of the blame for WINTER DEATHS!

And there was nothing in the link you posted that makes that claim!

You just made that up and tacked it on to entertain your fellow TRUMTARDS!

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Slavish commitment to green politics, coupled with foolish idealism, will cost lives this winter. Britain alone suffers more than 28,000 excess winter deaths a year. About 200,000 such deaths occur in all of Europe each year, with mortality increasing by 1.5 percent for every 1-degree Celsius decrease. A bitterly cold winter and a sharp decline of constant heating could potentially trigger a six-figure increase in excess deaths continent-wide.
https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-...by-cold-for-green-folly-and-we-could-be-next/

Fuel poverty crisis: 3,000 Britons dying each year because they can't heat their homes, study shows
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...nter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

Each year, more than 100,000 people die from cold in the United States, and 13,000 in Canada — more than 40 cold deaths for every heat death.
In this June 26, 2021, file photo, a paramedic with Falck Northwest ambulances treats a man experiencing heat exposure during a heat wave in Salem, Ore.
Oregon heat wave victims older, lived alone, had no AC
The same pattern holds, including in countries not typically associated with frigid winters. In India, cold deaths outnumber heat deaths 7 to 1. Globally, 1.7 million people die of cold each year, dwarfing heat deaths (300,000).
https://nypost.com/2021/07/14/more-...death-climate-obsession-leads-to-lousy-fixes/

Since heavy reliance on wind and solar drive the price of electricity up to several times more than with conventional generation (eg., coal, natural gas, oil or nuclear), electricity becomes unaffordable for many. Older homes that are poorly insulated cannot make economic use of technologies like heat pumps and radiant electric heating is grotesquely expensive.

So, many end up dying in the cold as study after study, and the actual statistics confirm.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Slavish commitment to green politics, coupled with foolish idealism, will cost lives this winter. Britain alone suffers more than 28,000 excess winter deaths a year. About 200,000 such deaths occur in all of Europe each year, with mortality increasing by 1.5 percent for every 1-degree Celsius decrease. A bitterly cold winter and a sharp decline of constant heating could potentially trigger a six-figure increase in excess deaths continent-wide.
https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-...by-cold-for-green-folly-and-we-could-be-next/

Fuel poverty crisis: 3,000 Britons dying each year because they can't heat their homes, study shows
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...nter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

Each year, more than 100,000 people die from cold in the United States, and 13,000 in Canada — more than 40 cold deaths for every heat death.
In this June 26, 2021, file photo, a paramedic with Falck Northwest ambulances treats a man experiencing heat exposure during a heat wave in Salem, Ore.
Oregon heat wave victims older, lived alone, had no AC
The same pattern holds, including in countries not typically associated with frigid winters. In India, cold deaths outnumber heat deaths 7 to 1. Globally, 1.7 million people die of cold each year, dwarfing heat deaths (300,000).
https://nypost.com/2021/07/14/more-...death-climate-obsession-leads-to-lousy-fixes/

Since heavy reliance on wind and solar drive the price of electricity up to several times more than with conventional generation (eg., coal, natural gas, oil or nuclear), electricity becomes unaffordable for many. Older homes that are poorly insulated cannot make economic use of technologies like heat pumps and radiant electric heating is grotesquely expensive.

So, many end up dying in the cold as study after study, and the actual statistics confirm.
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Nice Trick! Posting MAGA-TARD and NEO-NAZI Kristin Tate's OPINIONS from the Hill's OPINION section, where they clearly state- The views expressed by contributors are their own and not the view of The Hill. FUCK YOU FOR THAT! Why would anyone BELIEVE anything a MAGA-TARD has to say ever again?

And then taking two of the MOST BIASED and UNRELIABLE RIGHT WING EXTREMIST TABLOIDS, and quoting them here is also an insult to intelligent people!

Tabloids are nothing more than sensationalized rubbish!

It just goes to show everyone how dumbfounded, ignorant, and politically BIASED you are, and how vulnerable you are to BULLSHIT and where you get your sick politics and brainwashing!

It's like watching hogs slop a trough!

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Geeko Sportivo said:
Nice Trick! Posting MAGA-TARD and NEO-NAZI Kristin Tate's OPINIONS from the Hill's OPINION section, where they clearly state- The views expressed by contributors are their own and not the view of The Hill. FUCK YOU FOR THAT! Why would anyone BELIEVE anything a MAGA-TARD has to say ever again?

And then taking two of the MOST BIASED and UNRELIABLE RIGHT WING EXTREMIST TABLOIDS, and quoting them here is also an insult to intelligent people!

Tabloids are nothing more than sensationalized rubbish!

It just goes to show everyone how dumbfounded, ignorant, and politically BIASED you are, and how vulnerable you are to BULLSHIT and where you get your sick politics and brainwashing!

It's like watching hogs slop a trough!

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Nice ad hominem rant. Your answer doesn't contain a single fact and is completely devoid of usefulness. It's like de ja vu all over again. Seems the radical Left truly isn't capable of rational thought or discussion of anything...
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Nice ad hominem rant. Your answer doesn't contain a single fact and is completely devoid of usefulness. It's like de ja vu all over again. Seems the radical Left truly isn't capable of rational thought or discussion of anything...
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Sir, I apologize for my rant, however there are many fair and balanced resources for information, news, and politics.

The Hill, which you quoted is one such good and reliable source- perhaps not from their opinions page, but overall.

You do not have to use MAGA-TARD's opinions or Tabloids for quoting here in the forum.

That's all I was saying really!
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Sir, I apologize for my rant, however there are many fair and balanced resources for information, news, and politics.

The Hill, which you quoted is one such good and reliable source- perhaps not from their opinions page, but overall.

You do not have to use MAGA-TARD's opinions or Tabloids for quoting here in the forum.

That's all I was saying really!
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It doesn't change that ten's of thousands die in Europe every winter from cold. They may not outright freeze to death, but the cold gets them. Green energy in Germany has made electricity a luxury good there. Germany has some of the highest priced electricity in the world now. Solar and wind have proven to be expensive, unreliable, and really unsustainable energy sources. Yet, the Left keeps pushing that insanity down our throats.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It doesn't change that ten's of thousands die in Europe every winter from cold. They may not outright freeze to death, but the cold gets them. Green energy in Germany has made electricity a luxury good there. Germany has some of the highest priced electricity in the world now. Solar and wind have proven to be expensive, unreliable, and really unsustainable energy sources. Yet, the Left keeps pushing that insanity down our throats.
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Look! You and I disagree on Green Energy PERIOD.

But, to conflate deaths in the Winter to GREEN ENERGY is nothing more that political posturing and there is no prove of it anywhere in the world.

Green energy is an alternative source, simply a choice, forced upon no one in the world.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Look! You and I disagree on Green Energy PERIOD.

But, to conflate deaths in the Winter to GREEN ENERGY is nothing more that political posturing and there is no prove of it anywhere in the world.

Green energy is an alternative source, simply a choice, forced upon no one in the world.
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Wrong. It is being forced on everyone in many locales. California is forcing solar and wind down the throats of people living there. You have no choice but to put it on your new construction house because the government says so, as but one example.

In Germany, green energy accounts for nearly 50% of all electric production now. You cannot use natural gas to heat your home there. That's why the idiotic wood pellet stove has become popular. You can't afford electricity, you can't use natural gas, so you are left with insanely stupid alternatives all due to radical Leftist greentard decisions on energy.
 
Bigdog said:
True.

Surely by now, they would have some forensic evidence from the blast site.
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like what? a piece of pipeline? that's the Baltic sea

Biden, who just days before Russia's February 24, 2022, invasion, said: "If Russia invades, that means tanks and troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it."
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Look! You and I disagree on Green Energy PERIOD.

But, to conflate deaths in the Winter to GREEN ENERGY is nothing more that political posturing and there is no prove of it anywhere in the world.

Green energy is an alternative source, simply a choice, forced upon no one in the world.
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How did you get to be so foolish? It's truly beyond belief.
 
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anatta said:
like what? a piece of pipeline? that's the Baltic sea

Biden, who just days before Russia's February 24, 2022, invasion, said: "If Russia invades, that means tanks and troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it."
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I don't think he was saying that the US blew it up. Biden was more likely referring to the fact that the pipeline would be rendered useless by the war, which is certainly true. I think that Ukrainians and dissident Russians carried out the bombing, it just seems the most likely explanation.
 
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anatta said:
like what? a piece of pipeline? that's the Baltic sea

Biden, who just days before Russia's February 24, 2022, invasion, said: "If Russia invades, that means tanks and troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it."
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They should definitely recover some of the damaged pipeline to perform proper bomb forensics on it. That would be "normal".

They raise segments of downed airliners from much deeper than the 200 ft. depth of the damaged pipeline.

Nord Stream was already shut down. It was already "ended" before the bombing.
 
serendipity said:
I don't think he was saying that the US blew it up. Biden was more likely referring to the fact that the pipeline would be rendered useless by the war, which is certainly true. I think that Ukrainians and dissident Russians carried out the bombing, it just seems the most likely explanation.
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no. read the definity here. Nuland said the same thing . The US did it -or was at least behind it


Speaking at a joint news conference with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, Biden said,
If Russia invades... again, then there will be longer Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it."

When asked how he would do that, he responded, "I promise you we will be able to do it."
 
Bigdog said:
They should definitely recover some of the damaged pipeline to perform proper bomb forensics on it. That would be "normal".

They raise segments of downed airliners from much deeper than the 200 ft. depth of the damaged pipeline.

Nord Stream was already shut down. It was already "ended" before the bombing.
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no. it could have always been started up again. it was shutdown -not "ended"
The idea Russia blew up it's own pipeline is ludicrous, but that's what our INTEl is trying to sell
 
anatta said:
no. it could have always been started up again. it was shutdown -not "ended"
The idea Russia blew up it's own pipeline is ludicrous, but that's what our INTEl is trying to sell
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Yes, it could have been re opened, only if certain EU nations desired to buy Russian NG, again. And it still can be repaired.

The winter of 22-23 was extremely mild. The EU was very lucky.

Had it been an extremely cold winter, resulting in "excess" deaths from an energy shortage, ... who would be blamed for all the frozen corpses?
 
Bigdog said:
Yes, it could have been re opened, only if certain EU nations desired to buy Russian NG, again. And it still can be repaired.

The winter of 22-23 was extremely mild. The EU was very lucky.

Had it been an extremely cold winter, resulting in "excess" deaths from an energy shortage, ... who would be blamed for all the frozen corpses?
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i dont think it will eve be used again.. which was the point of the US sabotage
Ukraine is a proxy war against Russia - it's never really been as much about "defending Uk" as "degrading" Russia


For years I have been saying NATO expansion, mindless sanctions are counterproductive for the USA
Now we have a new axis. the Russo-Sino tag team..and we are not ready for Taiwan.
The Pentagon leaks already showed we are short on Harpoon. Great Buddha only knows what else.

Europe gets another US Free Ride
 
anatta said:
i dont think it will eve be used again.. which was the point of the US sabotage
Ukraine is a proxy war against Russia - it's never really been as much about "defending Uk" as "degrading" Russia


For years I have been saying NATO expansion, mindless sanctions are counterproductive for the USA
Now we have a new axis. the Russo-Sino tag team..and we are not ready for Taiwan.
The Pentagon leaks already showed we are short on Harpoon. Great Buddha only knows what else.

Europe gets another US Free Ride
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All good points. So Biden would have been blamed for the frozen corpses.


However, are you saying that Putin NEVER had any designs or ambitions regarding Ukraine?
 
Bigdog said:
All good points. So Biden would have been blamed for the frozen corpses.


However, are you saying that Putin NEVER had any designs or ambitions regarding Ukraine?
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of course he had "ambitions" Trump interviews he said many time they talked about it, and Trump told Putin
"I know you want it. but you wont get it"

And so you know I dont support the invasion -although i did support Russian recognition of the DNR and LNR
states (Donbas)

remember "war is the ultimate failure of diplomacy" and that's been trending since the beginning of NATO expansion right upto pre-invasion Biden rejection of negotiations of the "Russian redlines" ( Lavrov letters)
 
anatta said:
no. it could have always been started up again. it was shutdown -not "ended"
The idea Russia blew up it's own pipeline is ludicrous, but that's what our INTEl is trying to sell
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The obvious suspects are the Ukrainians and perhaps dissident Russians. They have the technology and the divers, why do people attempt to dismiss it out of hand?
 
anatta said:
of course he had "ambitions" Trump interviews he said many time they talked about it, and Trump told Putin
"I know you want it. but you wont get it"

And so you know I dont support the invasion -although i did support Russian recognition of the DNR and LNR
states (Donbas)

remember "war is the ultimate failure of diplomacy" and that's been trending since the beginning of NATO expansion right upto pre-invasion Biden rejection of negotiations of the "Russian redlines" ( Lavrov letters)
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I know your guiding principle is ANTI war, Pro Peace.

Biden being blamed for the frozen corpses would be a huge PR win for Putin.

It is also said that "War is diplomacy by other means."

Secession is illegal. Military annexation is illegal. Should Putin GIVE something in exchange for the DNR and LNR? ... if yes, what?
 
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