Abortion Backlash Freaking Out Republicans

[martin]

After the Republican Party’s disappointing performance in the 2022 midterms, fueled in large part by a backlash to the Supreme Court’s overturning of Roe v. Wade, the Republican National Committee recommitted itself to anti-abortion maximalism.

A resolution adopted at the R.N.C.’s winter meeting in January urges Republican lawmakers “to pass the strongest pro-life legislation possible.” Addressing their party’s poor showing in November, it said that Republicans hadn’t been aggressive enough in defending anti-abortion values, urging them to “go on offense in the 2024 election cycle.”

The 11-point loss of the Republican-aligned candidate in Wisconsin’s Supreme Court election on Tuesday has influential conservatives rethinking this strategy. “Republicans had better get their abortion position straight, and more in line with where voters are, or they will face another disappointment in 2024,” said a Wall Street Journal editorial.

Ann Coulter tweeted, “The demand for anti-abortion legislation just cost Republicans another crucial race,” and added, “Please stop pushing strict limits on abortion, or there will be no Republicans left.” Jon Schweppe, policy director of the socially conservative American Principles Project, lamented, “We are getting killed by indie voters who think we support full bans with no exceptions.”...

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/07/opinion/abortion-rights-wisconsin-elections-republicans.html

Seeming to care more about protecting guns than school children probably isn't a good look either, and it gives a lie to the "sanctity of life" claim.

 

[Earl]

Total horse mierda, Marty.

So, you support the murder of the unborn children.

Poor Marty.

 

[martin]

Total horse mierda, Marty.

So, you support the murder of the unborn children.

Poor Marty.

Dumbo employs two terms in his reply and gets both wrong. If he were smarter he might realize that misusing words to make an argument undoes your argument at the outset, but Earl is Earl. Anyway, the thread is about the backlash against Republicans, not the morality of abortion, something else that went over Dumbo's head.

 

[serendipity]

Total horse mierda, Marty.

So, you support the murder of the unborn children.

Poor Marty.

I'm with Marty on this one, abortion up to 12 weeks is the norm in most of Europe. I frankly cannot see the fuss about chemically induced abortions.

 

[Concart]

I'm with Marty on this one, abortion up to 12 weeks is the norm in most of Europe. I frankly cannot see the fuss about chemically induced abortions.

Then you are a massive hypocrite. Life begins at conception or it doesn’t. Pick one.

 

[floridafan]

Total horse mierda, Marty.

So, you support the murder of the unborn children.

Poor Marty.

Look at the results of elections nationwide. Republicans are losing badly at the polls. Look at your state of MI and the recent election in WI. Abortion rights is an issue that you will never win with. It will be an albatross around republican necks until the day that the SC reverses their decision.

 

[Earl]

Dumbo employs two terms in his reply and gets both wrong. If he were smarter he might realize that misusing words to make an argument undoes your argument at the outset, but Earl is Earl. Anyway, the thread is about the backlash against Republicans, not the morality of abortion, something else that went over Dumbo's head.

No words were misused, Marty.

You just don't understand them, perhaps too many polysyllabic words.

There is no proof that the abortion issue changed anything.

There is proof of massive Democratic cheating, Marty.

 

[Earl]

Look at the results of elections nationwide. Republicans are losing badly at the polls. Look at your state of MI and the recent election in WI. Abortion rights is an issue that you will never win with. It will be an albatross around republican necks until the day that the SC reverses their decision.

My state is not MI.

You still have abortion (child murder) rights in states that legislate for the right to murder an unborn infant.

 

[Earl]

I'm with Marty on this one, abortion up to 12 weeks is the norm in most of Europe. I frankly cannot see the fuss about chemically induced abortions.

I don't wish my country to emulate Europe. I lived in Europe for three years.

 

[cawacko]

I'm with Marty on this one, abortion up to 12 weeks is the norm in most of Europe. I frankly cannot see the fuss about chemically induced abortions.

This will hurt Republicans unless they can come up with a coherent message. Polling has shown for awhile, a majority of people support abortion - with restrictions. They don't believe in unlimited abortion and they also don't believe in banning it. Those on the right who basically want it made illegal don't have national support and it will show in (losing) elections.

 

[Monad Portal]

This will hurt Republicans unless they can come up with a coherent message. Polling has shown for awhile, a majority of people support abortion - with restrictions. They don't believe in unlimited abortion and they also don't believe in banning it. Those on the right who basically want it made illegal don't have national support and it will show in (losing) elections.

no it won't.

people will side with pro-lifers before they will side with people who want "abortion after birth".

if you could to the table with something reasonable, a time period perhaps, there could be a meeting in the middle.

but all you say is "a womans healthcare is between her and doctor", a policy you wont extend to vaccine usage, mind you.

 

[serendipity]

I don't wish my country to emulate Europe. I lived in Europe for three years.

Yes I know that, we agree on many things but not abortion. I frankly cannot see why anybody would have an objection to chemically induced abortions in the first trimester.

 

[floridafan]

My state is not MI.

You still have abortion (child murder) rights in states that legislate for the right to murder an unborn infant.

Abortion rights will be front and center, on every election ballot nationwide. It's an issue that republicans cannot win. Women want and demand the right to decide what they will do with their own bodies.

 

[cawacko]

no it won't.

people will side with pro-lifers before they will side with people who want "abortion after birth".

if you could to the table with something reasonable, a time period perhaps, there could be a meeting in the middle.

but all you say is "a womans healthcare is between her and doctor", a policy you wont extend to vaccine usage, mind you.

The bolded is exactly what I'm talking about. Say a ban after 16 weeks (for example). Many people wouldn't have issue with that. But you have a certain segment of the pro-life movement to whom that is not acceptable and want it down to six weeks, or none at all. Certain states may be able to get away with that. But on the whole, it will be costly to Republicans electorally to support.

 

[floridafan]

Total horse mierda, Marty.

So, you support the murder of the unborn children.

Poor Marty.

Women choose to decide what they will do with their own bodies. Its an issue that republicans will continue to lose on.

 

[Earl]

Women choose to decide what they will do with their own bodies. Its an issue that republicans will continue to lose on.

What they do with their own body is their own business.

What they do with the baby’s body that has its separate heart, lungs and DNA is a different matter.

Are you dumb enough to believe that an abortion issue should be decided by polls.

Good grief.

 

[Earl]

Yes I know that, we agree on many things but not abortion. I frankly cannot see why anybody would have an objection to chemically induced abortions in the first trimester.

It’s a lockout item with Pro Lifers.

The far left will never agree to first trimester limitations. Many of them want after birth abortion.

It is now illegal except in states whose legislatures make it legal.

That is a start.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

There is no defending the misogynist and theocratic Republicans.

They're really primitive creatures not ascended to the level of reason,
and a serious burden to civilized people.

 

[Nordberg]

Guns and abortion are losing issues. It will bite the reds in the ass. You are pro-forced birth and the shootings in schools.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

After the Republican Party’s disappointing performance in the 2022 midterms, fueled in large part by a backlash to the Supreme Court’s overturning of Roe v. Wade, the Republican National Committee recommitted itself to anti-abortion maximalism.

A resolution adopted at the R.N.C.’s winter meeting in January urges Republican lawmakers “to pass the strongest pro-life legislation possible.” Addressing their party’s poor showing in November, it said that Republicans hadn’t been aggressive enough in defending anti-abortion values, urging them to “go on offense in the 2024 election cycle.”

The 11-point loss of the Republican-aligned candidate in Wisconsin’s Supreme Court election on Tuesday has influential conservatives rethinking this strategy. “Republicans had better get their abortion position straight, and more in line with where voters are, or they will face another disappointment in 2024,” said a Wall Street Journal editorial.

Ann Coulter tweeted, “The demand for anti-abortion legislation just cost Republicans another crucial race,” and added, “Please stop pushing strict limits on abortion, or there will be no Republicans left.” Jon Schweppe, policy director of the socially conservative American Principles Project, lamented, “We are getting killed by indie voters who think we support full bans with no exceptions.”...

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/07/opinion/abortion-rights-wisconsin-elections-republicans.html

Seeming to care more about protecting guns than school children probably isn't a good look either, and it gives a lie to the "sanctity of life" claim.

Martin is a male name and as such is unable to bear children. As such you have no say in the abortion issue. Abortion is a moral issue and should be between a woman and her maker. As a male I can only offer my opinions on the subject.