Pete Buttigieg royally screwed Trump, pun intended

Then came 2017: After rail industry donors delivered more than $6 million to GOP campaigns, the Trump administration — backed by rail lobbyists and Senate Republicans — rescinded part of that rule aimed at making better braking systems widespread on the nation’s rails.
 
evince said:
Then came 2017: After rail industry donors delivered more than $6 million to GOP campaigns, the Trump administration — backed by rail lobbyists and Senate Republicans — rescinded part of that rule aimed at making better braking systems widespread on the nation’s rails.
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From your post No. 33
Obama administration in 2014 proposed improving safety regulations for trains carrying petroleum and other hazardous materials. However, after industry pressure, the final measure ended up narrowly focused on the transport of crude oil and exempting trains carrying many other combustible materials, including the chemical involved in this weekend’s disaster.
 
goat said:
From your post No. 33
Obama administration in 2014 proposed improving safety regulations for trains carrying petroleum and other hazardous materials. However, after industry pressure, the final measure ended up narrowly focused on the transport of crude oil and exempting trains carrying many other combustible materials, including the chemical involved in this weekend’s disaster.
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The senate republicans negotiated it down idiot


Not Obama
 
Obama proposed a safety plan for the Congress to make into law



Then the senate republicans took it on and weakened it in every way possible because the industry gave them massive cash
 
goat said:
Your post No. 33 clearly states Obama removed regulations on chemicals after a meeting with lobbyist.
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No it does not idiot


Obama wrote up a proposal


The Congress has to make it law


The corporations don’t negotiate what a president proposed idiot


They negociate with those who are tasked with making the actual law
 
evince said:
Obama administration in 2014 proposed improving safety regulations for trains carrying petroleum and other hazardous materials. However, after industry pressure, the final measure ended up narrowly focused on the transport of crude oil and exempting trains carrying many other combustible materials, including the chemical involved in this weekend’s disaster.

Then came 2017: After rail industry donors delivered more than $6 million to GOP campaigns, the Trump administration — backed by rail lobbyists and Senate Republicans — rescinded part of that rule aimed at making better braking systems widespread on the nation’s rails.

Specifically, regulators killed provisions requiring rail cars carrying hazardous flammable materials to be equipped with electronic braking systems to stop trains more quickly than conventional air brakes. Norfolk Southern had previously touted the new technology — known as Electronically Controlled Pneumatic (ECP) brakes — for its “potential to reduce train stopping distances by as much as 60 percent over conventional air brake systems.”

But the company’s lobby group nonetheless pressed for the rule’s repeal, telling regulators that it would “impose tremendous costs without providing offsetting safety benefits.”

That argument won out with Trump officials — and the Biden administration has not moved to reinstate the brake rule or expand the kinds of trains subjected to tougher safety regulations.

“Would ECP brakes have reduced the severity of this accident? Yes,” Steven Ditmeyer, a former senior official at the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA), told The Lever. “The railroads will test new features. But once they are told they have to do it… they don’t want to spend the money.”

Norfolk Southern did not answer questions about its efforts to weaken safety mandates. The company also did not answer questions about what kind of braking system was operating on the train that derailed in Ohio. The company referred The Lever to the National Transportation Safety Board, the federal agency that is investigating the accident and that had originally called for more expansive rules governing the transport of hazardous materials. A spokesperson for the agency confirmed to The Lever that the derailed train was not equipped with ECP brakes.

A spokesperson for one advocacy group pressing for tougher safety regulations said the Ohio disaster is the latest consequence of the rail industry’s cost-cutting, profit-at-all cost business model.

“Prior to the stock buyback era, railroads agreed that ECP brakes were a good thing,” said Ron Kaminkow, a longtime railroad worker and organizer with Railroad Workers United. “The railroads hadn’t yet come to the realization that they could do whatever they wanted. ECP brakes were on the drawing board, then off.”
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Read the whole thing liar
 
BartenderElite said:
I think it's illustrative of how the calls for "deregulation" need to always be thought through more carefully. Conservatives have turned "regulation" into a dirty word, but we need it, pretty much everywhere.

When corporations are left to their own devices, they will pursue profit above all else. I don't really blame them for that - this is capitalism, and that's the way it is. But that's why we need government to ensure safety for the population & planet.
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Calls for regulation, likewise need to be thought through carefully.

But, in this case the NTSB found that the crew got the alarm that something was wrong with one of the cars too late to make any attempt at emergency braking effective. That is, the car with the bad bearing / wheel assembly was already beginning the derailment sequence before the crew attempted to stop the train due to an alarm.

Worse, the NTSB found that the fire created by the wheel assembly had set the boxcar on which it was on fire. This car contained plastic pellets for injection molding, a highly flammable cargo. So, the train also had a fire aboard one of the cars as well.

https://www.newsweek.com/ohio-train... as evidence for "metallurgical examination."

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/23/1158...ailment-ntsb-preliminary-report-wheel-bearing

Again, the Trump deregulation would have, and had, no effect on this derailment. It happened because of a mechanical failure of one of the cars and that wasn't detected until it was too late to prevent the derailment.
 
evince said:
The senate republicans negotiated it down idiot


Not Obama
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Lobbyist had a face to face with Obama and talked him into excluding train cars transporting chemicals. I'm proud of you for beating me to the real story by one minute. I heard about it on Wednesday but I didn't post the link. Congratulations, you beat the Goat to the punch.
 
Who passed this into law and when?


The senate did that in 2014


They write the laws and negotiate the final draft with each other not the president


Then in 2017 republicans recorded MORE of those rules
 
goat said:
Lobbyist had a face to face with Obama and talked him into excluding train cars transporting chemicals. I'm proud of you for beating me to the real story by one minute. I heard about it on Wednesday but I didn't post the link. Congratulations, you beat the Goat to the punch.
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Link us up to your proof
 
evince said:
Then came 2017: After rail industry donors delivered more than $6 million to GOP campaigns, the Trump administration — backed by rail lobbyists and Senate Republicans — rescinded part of that rule aimed at making better braking systems widespread on the nation’s rails.
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And, according to the NTSB who has now examined the wreck thoroughly, the rule would have made ZERO difference in that case. NO DIFFERENCE! So, you are just repeating a canard that becomes a lie the more you say it.
 
https://www.reuters.com/article/usa...k-oil-train-safety-rule-idUSL1N10224E20150722



OIL AND GAS
JULY 22, 20151:25 PMUPDATED 8 YEARS AGO
UPDATE 1-U.S. Senate Republicans end bid to pare back oil train safety rule
By David Morgan

(Adds Thune quote in paragraph nine)

WASHINGTON, July 22 (Reuters) - Senate Republicans have backed away from a controversial proposal that would have repealed a new federal safety rule requiring oil trains to be equipped with advanced new braking systems.

Republicans eliminated the proposal from a multi-year surface transportation bill, after coming under pressure from the Obama administration and Democratic lawmakers, whose support they need for passage of the legislation, Senate aides said on Wednesday.

In late June, the Republican-controlled Senate Commerce Committee voted to repeal the requirement that trains carrying crude oil install electronically controlled pneumatic (ECP) brakes, less than two months after the administration unveiled sweeping new rules aimed at preventing catastrophic oil train derailments.
 
“Would ECP brakes have reduced the severity of this accident? Yes,” Steven Ditmeyer, a former senior official at the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA), told The Lever. “The railroads will test new features. But once they are told they have to do it… they don’t want to spend the money.”
 
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