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Doc Dutch said:
Agreed; mostly I’m accused of hating Pedos, Nazis, White People and Trump. They’re wrong, of course, since I don’t hate anyone. Stopping people from committing crimes or inciting harm to innocent Americans is not hate.
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What about "violent atheists"? You seem to really hate them, too.
 
Cypress said:
But to throw another wrinkle into it, what if we knew the one person is our sister or brother, and the other five are random strangers.

What's the moral and logical choices?

That is a real conundrum to me.
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The moral and logical choice is to still save the five but it would be understandable on why a person chose to save a family member.

OTOH, if the family member was known to have the cure for cancer or some other knowledge priceless to the rest of humanit, then the moral choice becomes to save the one over the five.
 
Doc Dutch said:
The moral and logical choice is to still save the five but it would be understandable on why a person chose to save a family member.

OTOH, if the family member was known to have the cure for cancer or some other knowledge priceless to the rest of humanit, then the moral choice becomes to save the one over the five.
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Yeah, that's the conundrum. We say the good of the many outweigh the few, but I don't think that is necessarily a choice we would make in all circumstances. It's a good general rule of thumb though
 
Doc Dutch said:
The moral and logical choice is to still save the five but it would be understandable on why a person chose to save a family member.

OTOH, if the family member was known to have the cure for cancer or some other knowledge priceless to the rest of humanit, then the moral choice becomes to save the one over the five.
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this is an exceptional situation manufactured to attack basic morality.

it's basically propaganda.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you... is my golden rule of thumb.
 
JesusAI said:
repent, and sin no more.
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"Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye." -- Jesus
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
"Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye." -- Jesus
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you're the eye d.o. log.
 
Cypress said:
But to throw another wrinkle into it, what if we knew the one person is our sister or brother, and the other five are random strangers.

What's the moral and logical choices?

That is a real conundrum to me.
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Or the one was your lover, and the other were strangers. And under 10 yrs. old.

I bet they have these quizzes in Hell. lol
 
Cypress said:
Yeah, that's the conundrum. We say the good of the many outweigh the few, but I don't think that is necessarily a choice we would make in all circumstances. It's a good general rule of thumb though
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Context and circumstances vary.

Now consider the conversation about AI computers. How would they decide?
 
NovoJank said:
Oh, I am sorry.

You like them?

You didn't put off that impression on the other thread.
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1. Thanks for dodging the question. You do it habitually which indicates your inherent dishonesty.

2. I’m indifferent to both atheists and theists. As Eli Wiesel famously wrote, “The opposite of love is not hate, but indifference”.

3. I’d ask you to quote what I wrote and explain what impression you gained from it, but since you habitually dodge questions, I will stop asking them of you.
 
Doc Dutch said:
2. I’m indifferent to both atheists and theists.
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You and I both know that isn't correct.

3. I’d ask you to quote what I wrote and explain what impression you gained from it, but since you habitually dodge questions, I will stop asking them of you.
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You saw me post something in which I noted a theologically difficult portion of the Old Testament and you inferred I was a "violent atheist". That indicated that it was a very sore spot for you.

You didn't just comment on atheism, no, you accused me of being a "violent atheist" simply because I was pointing out some unpleasantness in the Bible.

You are not indifferent. If you were you wouldn't have gone immediately to calling me a "violent atheist".

Please be honest with yourself.
 
Doc Dutch said:
1. Thanks for dodging the question. You do it habitually which indicates your inherent dishonesty.

2. I’m indifferent to both atheists and theists. As Eli Wiesel famously wrote, “The opposite of love is not hate, but indifference”.

3. I’d ask you to quote what I wrote and explain what impression you gained from it, but since you habitually dodge questions, I will stop asking them of you.
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I've seen you be just as belligerent to fundamentalist holy rollers as to militant atheists.
 
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