“There have been nearly 70 mass shootings so far this year”

[archives]

“Mass shootings have averaged more than one per day in 2023. Not a single week has passed without at least seven mass shootings.”

“There have already been 67 mass shootings in 2023 in the United States, more than any other year when compared with the same period. Less than two months into 2023, mass shootings have already killed 104 people and injured 269 this year in America.“

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/01/24/mass-shootings-us/

For many it appears a deep-rooted cultural phenomenon that to own a gun is somehow indicative of being free.

And the the price of this freedom is children, teachers, dancers, nursery workers, office workers, religious congregants, moviegoers, manicurists, masseuses, grocery shoppers, grocery checkers, and innocent bystanders continue to be mowed down

Given that the massacre of four and five year old kids by a semiautomatic weapon didn’t motivate the right it seems as if the only thing that will bring change is when they see the their own idiocy as a threat. Reagan banned semiautomatic weapons in California when he saw the Black Panthers openly carrying them in public so something similar will have to occur

 

[cawacko]

I ask the same question. Guns aren't new and it sounds like powerful weapons have been around for awhile so the ability to commit such acts has been there. Something flipped in society where this went from a rare occurrence to more regular one. You can put more regulations on guns but that likely won't solve a whole lot because they'll still be access to guns for those who want them. We can try to remove guns from society but good luck with that. All that will do is mean law abiding citizens won't have any but criminals will.

Something has broken in society where clearly people view this as a viable act. Maybe the genie will never go back into the bottle but I'd like to think (or hope) that's not the case.

 

[Noking]

More gun violence the easiest that it is to justify buying guns, so gun sellers and gun manufactures who are funding the GOP and the NRA win.

 

[Nordberg]

I ask the same question. Guns aren't new and it sounds like powerful weapons have been around for awhile so the ability to commit such acts has been there. Something flipped in society where this went from a rare occurrence to more regular one. You can put more regulations on guns but that likely won't solve a whole lot because they'll still be access to guns for those who want them. We can try to remove guns from society but good luck with that. All that will do is mean law abiding citizens won't have any but criminals will.

Something has broken in society where clearly people view this as a viable act. Maybe the genie will never go back into the bottle but I'd like to think (or hope) that's not the case.

Some people have been boiling inside. When they blow up now, they can buy an AR and mow down many innocent people. In societies that limit guns, they also limit shootings. It really is just that easy.

 

[cawacko]

Some people have been boiling inside. When they blow up now, they can buy an AR and mow down many innocent people. In societies that limit guns, they also limit shootings. It really is just that easy.

Except my understanding is AR's have been around for decades so they aren't something new that now allows people to act when they couldn't previously.

I have a really hard time buying that 'some people have been boiling inside' is something new. No one prior to 25 years ago felt that way?

 

[LV426]

Except my understanding is AR's have been around for decades so they aren't something new that now allows people to act when they couldn't previously.

They were banned from 1994-2004.

Consequently, mass shootings dropped by 48%.

I have a really hard time buying that 'some people have been boiling inside' is something new. No one prior to 25 years ago felt that way?

25 years ago it wasn't acceptable to Conservatives either, but it is now...because the price of their freedom is the blood of dead children.

 

[archives]

I ask the same question. Guns aren't new and it sounds like powerful weapons have been around for awhile so the ability to commit such acts has been there. Something flipped in society where this went from a rare occurrence to more regular one. You can put more regulations on guns but that likely won't solve a whole lot because they'll still be access to guns for those who want them. We can try to remove guns from society but good luck with that. All that will do is mean law abiding citizens won't have any but criminals will.

Something has broken in society where clearly people view this as a viable act. Maybe the genie will never go back into the bottle but I'd like to think (or hope) that's not the case.

All about access, access to guns in America, especially semiautomatic weapons, is almost nonexistent, and given the sheer number of guns out there, as many as there are people, access is the problem

But as I noted, it will never be solved until the right sees it as a threat, as the example I offered on Reagan

 

[Lionfish]

They were banned from 1994-2004.

Consequently, mass shootings dropped by 48%.




25 years ago it wasn't acceptable to Conservatives either, but it is now...because the price of their freedom is the blood of dead children.

BULLSHIT! AR's were never banned, just required to have cosmetic parts removed.

 

[archives]

They were banned from 1994-2004.

Consequently, mass shootings dropped by 48%.




25 years ago it wasn't acceptable to Conservatives either, but it is now...because the price of their freedom is the blood of dead children.

Correct, access was restricted, and at one time even the NRA believed in sensible gun control

 

[cawacko]

All about access, access to guns in America, especially semiautomatic weapons, is almost nonexistent, and given the sheer number of guns out there, as many as there are people, access is the problem

But as I noted, it will never be solved until the right sees it as a threat, as the example I offered on Reagan

I may be misreading your first sentence but did you mean to say access to guns is almost nonexistent? (I wouldn't think so)

It's not like a decision maker so my thoughts here are really irrelevant, and my ignorance on guns and the whole echo system of guns doesn't help, but even limiting guns isn't going to stop mass shootings. People who want them will still get them. It's like drugs.

 

[archives]

BULLSHIT! AR's were never banned, just required to have cosmetic parts removed.

They weren’t as readily available or demanded as today, the guy intent on shooting up his workplace wasn’t premeditated enough to alter weapons

 

[Yakuda]

Some people have been boiling inside. When they blow up now, they can buy an AR and mow down many innocent people. In societies that limit guns, they also limit shootings. It really is just that easy.

I wonder why they are "boiling inside"? It couldn't possibly be because not leftists, right?

 

[archives]

I may be misreading your first sentence but did you mean to say access to guns is almost nonexistent? (I wouldn't think so)

It's not like a decision maker so my thoughts here are really irrelevant, and my ignorance on guns and the whole echo system of guns doesn't help, but even limiting guns isn't going to stop mass shootings. People who want them will still get them. It's like drugs.

Not totally nonexistent, but easy to manipulate, for example, the private purchase laws pretty much negate a lot of regulation, plus, State law dictates waiting periods, and given the average background check can take thirty days some States allow possession after three. You have strawman purchases and trafficking across State lines, plus an array of other means to obtain a gun

 

[Yakuda]

Correct, access was restricted, and at one time even the NRA believed in sensible gun control

What is "sensible" gun control?

 

[archives]

I wonder why they are "boiling inside"? It couldn't possibly be because not leftists, right?

Even if you knew, it wouldn’t do any good, near impossible to predict or prepare for the next shooter or target, only the gun that makes it all possible can be regulated

 

[Yakuda]

Even if you knew, it wouldn’t do any good, near impossible to predict or prepare for the next shooter or target, only the gun that makes it all possible can be regulated

So what is the acceptable number of mass shootings? When does it become too many?

 

[archives]

What is "sensible" gun control?

Fully regulating access, no one has to take away guns, rather make acquiring one uniformed and more restrictive, thru either thru law, enforcement, or creating hurdles discouraging ownership, I’d recommend all three simultaneously

 

[archives]

So what is the acceptable number of mass shootings? When does it become too many?

“Acceptable?” Really?

None, but that ain’t going to happen, so the more or any that can be prevented

 

[Matt Dillon]

“Mass shootings have averaged more than one per day in 2023. Not a single week has passed without at least seven mass shootings.”

“There have already been 67 mass shootings in 2023 in the United States, more than any other year when compared with the same period. Less than two months into 2023, mass shootings have already killed 104 people and injured 269 this year in America.“

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/01/24/mass-shootings-us/

For many it appears a deep-rooted cultural phenomenon that to own a gun is somehow indicative of being free.

And the the price of this freedom is children, teachers, dancers, nursery workers, office workers, religious congregants, moviegoers, manicurists, masseuses, grocery shoppers, grocery checkers, and innocent bystanders continue to be mowed down

Given that the massacre of four and five year old kids by a semiautomatic weapon didn’t motivate the right it seems as if the only thing that will bring change is when they see the their own idiocy as a threat. Reagan banned semiautomatic weapons in California when he saw the Black Panthers openly carrying them in public so something similar will have to occur

That's a lie.
They're counting gang drive-bys as mass shootings.
https://www.walb.com/2023/01/09/4-injured-shooting-albany-community-center/

 

[Yakuda]

Fully regulating access, no one has to take away guns, rather make acquiring one uniformed and more restrictive, thru either thru law, enforcement, or creating hurdles discouraging ownership, I’d recommend all three simultaneously

What other right would you be willig to "fully " regulate, make more restrictive and/or create hurdles to exercising?