Two votes. No Speaker.

Dutch Uncle said:
Besides the scrutiny I think Jordan doesn't want his already shitty legacy to become known as Worst Speaker Ever.
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Well, looks like only 20 people wanted him as their speaker anyhoo! :laugh:

McCarthy only has one arrow in his quiver now, and that is to grind them down!

This will go on all day today- and probably all day again tomorrow!

We'll even have to see if his numbers go up or down!
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Disagreed, LV, but I can see why you want to see it that way since you area far Left Democrat hoping the Republican Party destroys itself leaving only the Democratic Party to rule America.
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So we should vote for Nazis because otherwise, Democrats would control Congress and the White House?

Ok, obvious follow up question: Why is Democratic control of both a bad thing that must be prevented?
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Well, looks like only 20 people wanted him as their speaker anyhoo! :laugh:

McCarthy only has one arrow in his quiver now, and that is to grind them down!

This will go on all day today- and probably all day again tomorrow!

We'll even have to see if his numbers go up or down!
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McCarthy, with the backing of the Republican majority, can reach across the aisle. I doubt the Republicans want the nutjob MAGAts to hold them hostage for the next two years.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Well, looks like only 20 people wanted him as their speaker anyhoo! :laugh:

McCarthy only has one arrow in his quiver now, and that is to grind them down!

This will go on all day today- and probably all day again tomorrow!

We'll even have to see if his numbers go up or down!
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They called a recess when his numbers started dropping yesterday. Lets see if he accomplished any good bribery overnight.
 
LV426 said:
So we should vote for Nazis because otherwise, Democrats would control Congress and the White House?

Ok, obvious follow up question: Why is Democratic control of both a bad thing that must be prevented?
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See, Ms. LV? You are a far Left extremist who only sees your way or complete opposite; the Pedophile Nazi fascist way. You see the world in two extremes. There's an in-between area, dear. It's called "bipartisan", Moderate, Centrist, and, the worst word, compromising.
 
Jarod said:
They called a recess when his numbers started dropping yesterday. Lets see if he accomplished any good bribery overnight.
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It was a good move because it broke the passion and let emotions cool. Overnight some of the Republican may have cooled off enough to see reason. It also gave Jim Jordan a chance to push that he doesn't want the job, pick someone else.
 
LV426 said:
For what sake are we keeping the GOP around now that it has been taken over by Nazis and Russian assets?
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What is your solution to kill off the Republican Party and all of their supporters? Concentration camps? Street executions?

I'm curious about your Final Solution for everyone who disagrees with the Democratic Party, dear.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
There's an in-between area, dear. It's called "bipartisan", Moderate, Centrist, and, the worst word, compromising.
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Right: I think all gay people should be murdered

Left: I don't.

Centrist: Guys, guys...can't we compromise? Maybe just SOME gay people should be murdered.

Conservative: I can live with that.

Left: I cannot.

Centrist: See, the Left is extreme, they never want to compromise in the middle.
 
LV426 said:
Why is it a bad thing for Democrats to control the WH and Congress? This is the third time I've had to ask. I'm starting to grow impatient because you're acting in bad faith.
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Human nature; power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Look at any single power state in history and they all end up causing more harm than good. Mostly out of selfishness and arrogance.

It's important to have a balance of power to prevent one side or the other from becoming too powerful and, therefore, too corrupt.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
It was a good move because it broke the passion and let emotions cool. Overnight some of the Republican may have cooled off enough to see reason. It also gave Jim Jordan a chance to push that he doesn't want the job, pick someone else.
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I agreee, in the end, a weakened McCarthy is the best choice for the liberals goals.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
What is your solution to kill off the Republican Party and all of their supporters?
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The solution to this problem is very, very, very fucking simple; make it illegal to accept anything other than public campaign financing.

The only reason our system is dominated by two parties is because of how our elections are financed.

If you remove the private money from election campaigns and create a level playing field with equal public campaign financing, suddenly politicians have to raise VOTES and not MONEY.

The reason our system is broken, and the reason Nazis were able to take over the GOP, is because they had the money to do it.

Right now, most politicians spend most of their time around wealthy people who fund their campaigns, and that is why they hardly ever produce legislation that solely benefits the working class. I read somewhere that elected reps and Senators spend as much as 90% of their time raising money and not attending committee hearings, not drafting legislation, not even showing up to vote.

You can get the Nazis out of government by cutting off their funding.

Oh, and the other solution is to shut down Fox News. If I were a billionaire like Musk, I'd buy Fox News just to shut it down.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Human nature; power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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So how were they "corrupted" for the last two years?

Because from 2021-2023 Democrats controlled both chambers and passed meaningful legislation.

You're saying that legislation was "corrupt" or that they passed it "corruptly"?

If so, how was the legislation corrupt and how did they pass it corruptly??

You lean on a lot of canards, you realize, and I think you do that because you're lazy.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Look at any single power state in history and they all end up causing more harm than good.
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So you're saying the last two years of unified Democratic control of Congress and the WH produced more harm than good? How so?

What did they produce that was harmful?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
It's important to have a balance of power to prevent one side or the other from becoming too powerful and, therefore, too corrupt.
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What if one side has already been corrupted by Nazis and fascists?

You're saying they provide balance?

What balance are they providing, and why do you think Nazis should have even a modicum of power?
 
Jarod said:
I agreee, in the end, a weakened McCarthy is the best choice for the liberals goals.
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No he isn't.

The best choice is Jeffries, and we should be leaning on Conservatives to vote for him, not on liberals to help out Nazis.

No liberals should offer any help, any refuge, any sanctuary to the people who called them groomers for a year and who attacked the Capitol over the stupidest lie ever told.
 
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