GOP planning to cut USA support 4 Ukraine

[T. A. Gardner]

Isolationism and appeasement didn’t work too well for us in the 1930’s.

The US wasn't involved with appeasement. That was a European thing. The US also didn't operate in isolation. The US declared shortly after WW 2 in Europe started the Hemispheric Defense Zone and got most Central and South American countries to go along with it as a unified defense strategy.

The US also began rearming for a war. Most spending went into infrastructure rather than weapons early on which turned out to be the smart move because that gave the US the bases and means to move all over the world.

With Japan increasing economic pressure along with giving China tens of millions (billions today) in aid and weapons drove the Japanese into a corner and they declared war on the US.

 

[Walt]

Even if you are talking about natural gas, not used much in transportation, it is not a majority of electricity production, but merely a third.

You keep bloviating this dumb lie too....Natural gas was the largest source—about 38%—of U.S. electricity generation in 2021.

So it is not the majority you claimed, but rather 38% in 2021, and a few percent less now... so about 33%.... What is that again? Oh yes, a third like I said.

 

[anonymoose]

Again, how much? $100 billion? A trillion?

Again, a percentage of GNP

How much time? Two years? Twenty?

Again, for as long as it takes. Two, twenty, whatever.

How long do you think you can convince Americans to tolerate this?

As long as Ukraine continues it's successful quest for liberty from Russia.

How do you know this? Oh, that's right. You don't know.

Nobody does.

But you appear to be willing to gamble a nuclear exchange to save Ukraine at all costs. Is that correct?

Somewhat. It's more than just saving Ukraine. It's more about stopping Russia's irresponsible imperialism. Stop them now in a proxy war or later in a world war. I learned long ago the best way to deal with a bully is to stand up to him. That's almost a universal axiom.

 

[Cypress]

Good. US has no role to play in that war.

We're not going to live in world where powerful nations can steal the land of their neighbors by military force, especially when the victim is a fledgling democracy.

 

[Cypress]

Without an investigation you don't know the extent of Ukrainian atrocities.

They can start with the Ukrainian trade-unionists being burned alive by Zelensky's Azov Nazis in 2014.

The GOP should have realized what sort of beasts their coup released way back then. Ending the billions of dollars-worth of handouts to Zelensky would be a good start towards reparations .

How many Russian civilians and children have been raped, executed, tortured, sexually assaulted by Ukranian armed forces?

 

[moon]

We're not going to live in world where powerful nations can steal the land of their neighbors by military force, especially when the victim is a fledgling democracy.

The law states that territory can never be gained by means of force. That is the basis of the UN Charter and the foundation of the Paris Peace Pact as ' definitively glossed by the Nuremberg Trials ' . This law is fundamental to world peace- and in these days of nuclear weaponry- world survival.
UNFORTUNATELY THE US PISSES ALL OVER THAT ESSENTIAL SAFEGUARD BY SUPPORTING THE FASCIST JEWS' INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF PALESTINE. This utter hypocrisy encourages other countries to attempt land-grabs of their own.
Further, you cannot hope that Russia will adhere to respecting the ILLEGALITY of warfare itself when the US has embarked upon illegal wars elsewhere. So wittering on about Russia's crimes when it's the US which is swimming in guilt is not just futile- it's fucking annoying. Your hypocrisy stinks.

 

[Jarod]

The US wasn't involved with appeasement. That was a European thing. The US also didn't operate in isolation. The US declared shortly after WW 2 in Europe started the Hemispheric Defense Zone and got most Central and South American countries to go along with it as a unified defense strategy.

The US also began rearming for a war. Most spending went into infrastructure rather than weapons early on which turned out to be the smart move because that gave the US the bases and means to move all over the world.

With Japan increasing economic pressure along with giving China tens of millions (billions today) in aid and weapons drove the Japanese into a corner and they declared war on the US.

Idiot

 

[Hawkeye10]

Not really. They are having trouble keeping their lights on and the coming winter freeze is slapping them with reality.

"We are destroying our way of life for Ukraine??!!" the people gasp.

 

[moon]

"We are destroying our way of life for Ukraine??!!" the people gasp.

It isn't even for Ukraine. Many Ukrainians are pro-Russian. Millions have fled to Russia. It's for Biden's war on Nord Stream and EU/Russian relations. Huge swathes of Ukrainian farmland were obtained by US corporations following the US-led coup of 2014.

' Europe supports the Zelenskies '

 

[Hawkeye10]

It isn't even for Ukraine. Many Ukrainians are pro-Russian. Millions have fled to Russia. It's for Biden's war on Nord Stream and EU/Russian relations. Huge swathes of Ukrainian farmland were obtained by US corporations following the US-led coup of 2014.

' Europe supports the Zelenskies '

The leaders have betrayed the people.

Hell is coming.

 

[Cypress]

The law states that territory can never be gained by means of force. That is the basis of the UN Charter and the foundation of the Paris Peace Pact as ' definitively glossed by the Nuremberg Trials ' . This law is fundamental to world peace- and in these days of nuclear weaponry- world survival.
UNFORTUNATELY THE US PISSES ALL OVER THAT ESSENTIAL SAFEGUARD BY SUPPORTING THE FASCIST JEWS' INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF PALESTINE. This utter hypocrisy encourages other countries to attempt land-grabs of their own.
Further, you cannot hope that Russia will adhere to respecting the ILLEGALITY of warfare itself when the US has embarked upon illegal wars elsewhere. So wittering on about Russia's crimes when it's the US which is swimming in guilt is not just futile- it's fucking annoying. Your hypocrisy stinks.

So you have no tangible evidence or reliable links showing that any Russian civilians have been raped, tortured, executed by Ukranian armed forces.

 

[Theywillneverlearn!]

Cypress is signalling that the Demmycrats are desperately throwing mud at the walls in the weeks before the election, hoping that at least one of their lies will stick.......

That is all that uneducated idiot ever does. All year long.

 

[Noking]

That is all that uneducated idiot ever does. All year long.

Poopeye=uneducated idiot

 

[gemini104104]

yes. good.

this war is a military industrial complex machination.

dems seemingly want wwIII.

You and the repuke party of treason at war against democracy, society and the common decency of humanity deserve to rot in hell, and I hope powers of the U.S. has a cluster of a can of whoop ass on stand by to deal with treasonous repukes who pilfer on the taxpayer dime while waging war against the taxpayer, their earned benefits and their life. This includes to which the life of the thieving repuke gutter mob is worthless, and that goes for tRump and his criminal family too.

 

[Monad Portal]

You and the repuke party of treason at war against democracy, society and the common decency of humanity deserve to rot in hell, and I hope powers of the U.S. has a cluster of a can of whoop ass on stand by to deal with treasonous repukes who pilfer on the taxpayer dime while waging war against the taxpayer, their earned benefits and their life. This includes to which the life of the thieving repuke gutter mob is worthless, and that goes for tRump and his criminal family too.

shut your fucking mass murder nihilist wwwIII idiot mouth.

 

[Hawkeye10]

shut your fucking mass murder nihilist wwwIII idiot mouth.

Notice how profoundly you fail.

The solution to bad speech is not shutting people up, it is better quality speech.

 

[Monad Portal]

Notice how profoundly you fail.

The solution to bad speech is not shutting people up, it is better quality speech.

I return posts in kind.

try it one time, ccp asskisser.

 

[Hawkeye10]

I return posts in kind.

try it one time, ccp asskisser.

You should now understand why I never had any intertest in your lectures.

 

[Monad Portal]

You should now understand why I never had any intertest in your lectures.

because you suck dog dicks all day?

 

[Hawkeye10]

because you suck dog dicks all day?

Because you are far inferior to me.