Do you believe Trump can 'declassify' classified docs by just 'thinking about them'?

[signalmankenneth]

Here's Trump's latest bullshit. He can 'declassify' documents by just thinking about them. Do you believe him?



Trump’s claim of declassifying documents ‘by thinking about it’ is mocked by legal experts

Former President Trump says he could declassify documents just “by thinking about it” — an outlandish claim that drew howls of outrage from legal experts.

Speaking to Fox News’s Sean Hannity, Trump asserted there is no need for the president to formally declassify documents or even notify anyone that he has done so.

“If you’re the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying, ‘It’s declassified,’ even by thinking about it,” Trump said.

“There can be a process, but there doesn’t have to be,” he added. “You’re the president. You make that decision.”

Trump is scrambling to find a legally viable defense to the investigation into mishandling top secret documents that led to the Aug. 8 search of his Mar-a-Lago Florida resort.

He apparently believes one defense could be that the documents were no longer classified because he says so.

But experts vigorously dispute that, noting that he has never provided any evidence that he declassified them before leaving the White House.

“I tried not to burst out laughing,” said Bradley P. Moss, a national security lawyer.

A three-judge federal appeals court panel, including two Trump-appointed justices, trashed Trump’s claim Wednesday night, saying documents that are marked as classified are considered classified unless there is evidence they have been declassified.

I would question Trump's mental faculties?!!

 

[floridafan]

Link to that process dipshit. There isn't any. You're beyond mere stupid.

Its already been posted a few days ago, you ignorant little shit. But here again scroll down to section 3.
Do note that any declassified document must be so mak=rked on the document itself.

https://www.archives.gov/about/laws/appendix/12958.html

 

[floridafan]

No he hasn't. In fact, he wins most of those legal battles. Dipshit.

Just what legal battles has he won? How bout the most current one regarding the stolen documents, or how about the criminal trial about to begin against the Trump Organization?

Did he win the legal battle against the trump Foundation or possible the Trump University?
Then we have the law suit regarding misuse of inauguration funds, which he also lost.
This is just the tip, my dear, the losses he has suffered are immense.

 

[LurchAddams]

Well remember that there is no documented process for a president to follow and he IS the ultimate decider as to what is classified or not. Yes, they most often opt to not exercise that authority and I suspect there are loads of documents that get classified that way he never has any reason to read.

"There is no documented process".

Yes there is. John Thune just said so yesterday, when asked, as did several other GOP reps. There is a process.

 

[LurchAddams]

Oh. C'mon... I can declassify documents just be thinking I am President and then by thinking that I am declassifying documents while I am thinking about being President. It's perfect. No one has ever thought better.

I just thought there should be a Kentucky mule in my hand, and <gasp>, ONE JUST APPEARED! twump must be right

 

[LurchAddams]

There is a documented process, which Trump never bothered to go through. You notice neither trump himself nor any of his legal team ever told a judge that these documents were declassified.

You know how we know the documents were NOT declassified? Because when a document is declassified, the "Top Secret" label is overwritten by the word, "Declassified".

 

[LurchAddams]

Because its the right thing. Just like Roe V Wade.

If he has the authority then he has the authority.

Doing the right thing is regaining respect whether you like it or not.

"The right thing, lie Roe v. Wade". Now we know where you pull your facts out of - your ass.

 

[LurchAddams]

I'm not relying on anything.

Read what it has to say about the president.

Dodge. If you think the Constitution supports your position, cite the portion you're talking about or admit you don't have a clue.

 

[LurchAddams]

No, but surely a good deal of the MAGA militia believe it because Trump said it was so

That is absolutely true. There's a member here "Truth Detector", who's whole argument is based on trump's lie. His challenge to all of us is, "prove him wrong".

Douche.

 

[LurchAddams]

I understand that America is now run by communists (WOKE), but America is supposed to be a nation of law, and as such it does not matter what I think, it matters what the law says.

If the law is not clear then we failed.

Your entire post is horseshit. "American run by communists" and "The law isn't clear".

The law is clear, trump broke it and we're not being run by communists you moron. Geez you suck as a poster here.

 

[LurchAddams]

Trump has been rejected by the law, time after time. Its not looking good. Who are the communists?

He just constantly posts shit. Pure garbage.

 

[LurchAddams]

So now are "communists" and "wokeist" the revolution? Are they in cahoots with the "deep state" and the "those people?"

He doesn't even realize what a moron he is.

 

[floridafan]

He just constantly posts shit. Pure garbage.

Why do you say "he"?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

This isn't a court of law, ColicGuy. It's just a question on a political forum. Your deflection is embarrassing you.

But it's obvious why too much of a pussy to answer. You'll look like a fool (just like you orange Jesus) if you say 'yes'.

and as a mere question on an internet political forum you have a supreme advantage in that you can make up your own facts......the sad thing is that for the last six years you have thought you could do the same thing in real life......hasn't worked for you so far.....there's no reason to expect it ever will....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Oh. C'mon... I can declassify documents just be thinking I am President and then by thinking that I am declassifying documents while I am thinking about being President. It's perfect. No one has ever thought better.

can you tell us whether the SC has in the past said that the president has the final authority to declassify documents........then can you tell us whether the law requires anything on the part of the president in the act of doing so..........if you can provide proof of anything in support of what you claim you may have a relevant argument........

 

[PostmodernProphet]

There is a documented process, which Trump never bothered to go through. You notice neither trump himself nor any of his legal team ever told a judge that these documents were declassified.

is there a documented process that applies to the office of president?.......please link to it.......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

There you go embarrassing yourself again, ColicGuy. There is ABSOLUTELY a process that EVERYONE in the gov't has to follow.

link it.....the only process I have ever seen linked specifically spells out who it applies to......

 

[floridafan]

is there a documented process that applies to the office of president?.......please link to it.......

Its already been posted, just a day or two ago. But any document that has been declassified is so marked.
Now, declassification is really not the issue. The real issue is why did trump steal documents that did not belong to him, and refuse to return them.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Trump has been rejected by the law, time after time. Its not looking good.

you've been saying that for ten years.......if he's been "rejected by the law" why isn't he in jail already......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

So now are "communists" and "wokeist" the revolution? Are they in cahoots with the "deep state" and the "those people?"

well yes, but that's an issue for another thread......