US railroad strike delayed

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Hawkeye10

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It looks to me that what has happened is that the union bosses capitulated to Revolution pressure to make a deal because America cant deal with a strike, we have way too many major problems already. That does not mean that the membership will approve it. Note that before the tentative deal was announced the railroads were already in the process of shutting down.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/15/business/railroad-union-ratification-process/index.html
 
So now democrats are alienating unions when it becomes an issue for their leadership.

Another voting bloc abandoned by the donkey party.
 
In the last few years Washington has pushed well over $100 billion at unions, and pressured states to agree to union demands to shut down schools and allow government workers to not come in to work....the railroad union bosses have to play ball.

But the rank and file dont.
 
Celticguy said:
So now democrats are alienating unions when it becomes an issue for their leadership.

Another voting bloc abandoned by the donkey party.
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See post #5.

I dont know that anyone feels alienated by the demands, union bosses did what they were told so they get credit, and if the rank and file reject the deal they will go to the Revolution and say "We did our part, this is not our fault".

The fact that CNN is talking at length about how there still might be a strike because the employees might reject it is instructive.
 
The railroads have straight up abused their workers over the last few years, and destroyed the safety culture that had been carefully built over many decades....they are pissed.

We'll see.
 
I was reading not long ago that the railroads slashed employment at the start of the pandemic and are desperate to hire people now, but that new hires tend to quit after a very short time because they take one look at the operation from the inside and decide "No fucking way, I want no part of this!".
 
Hawkeye10 said:
See post #5.

I dont know that anyone feels alienated by the demands, union bosses did what they were told so they get credit, and if the rank and file reject the deal they will go to the Revolution and say "We did our part, this is not our fault".

The fact that CNN is talking at length about how there still might be a strike because the employees might reject it is instructive.
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the unspoken fact is that Pedo Joe made it profitable for union bosses to make this action go away just as Obama did for UAW bosses back when the Big Three were floundering.

lets see if rank and file remember this too. 20,000 or so autoworkers saw their jobs go to Canada/Mexico while the UAW bosses got their skimming fixed.
 
In a related note I read a few days ago that Amtrak has 4,000 open jobs which they have been trying to fill but cant. Amtrak has of course been a deeply fucked organization for a very long time, some would say almost ever since it was created in 1971.
 
Celticguy said:
the unspoken fact is that Pedo Joe made it profitable for union bosses to make this action go away just as Obama did for UAW bosses back when the Big Three were floundering.

lets see if rank and file remember this too. 20,000 or so autoworkers saw their jobs go to Canada/Mexico while the UAW bosses got their skimming fixed.
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Union bosses are as corrupt as they ever were, they take the money and do as they are told, fuck the membership and what they want/need.

Problem is that they need membership to approve this deal, they cant get out of that.

There is extensive doubt that the membership will vote yes.
 
It might very well be that the Revolution does not expect the unions to vote yes, but early citizen voting will be starting almost any day, the election will be over soon, they might be just kicking the can down the road a few weeks, and after that they dont care. They certainly dont care about us at best, and at worst are actively driving to destroy the nation.
 
U.S. rail agreement was presented as a done deal. Now that they’ve seen it, workers disagree
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-rail-agreement-presented-done-214703954.html

It sure does look like union leadership conspired with the Revolution to kick the can down the road past the election, but that the membership might very well reject the deal. Union leadership betraying their own membership would of course not be any shock at all.
 
The Revolution seems to think that the there will never be a strike because they will pass a law making a strike illegal.

I am not so sure that these workers are inclined to follow such a law.
 
Another possible route for the Revolution:

Might Union Chiefs Override Member Vote?

If tentative wages, benefits and work rules agreements reached between rail labor unions and most Class I railroads (and many smaller ones) fail to be ratified by union members in coming weeks, might leadership of those unions override a majority “no” vote and unilaterally impose the tentative agreement or, alternatively, submit it to binding arbitration rather than pursue further collective bargaining or authorize a strike?

It’s currently an unanswered question. One union official, while declining to answer specifically, said only that it would be “irresponsible” for Railway Age to report on the possibility and asked not to be identified. In fact, such speculative reporting has appeared elsewhere, and overrides of ratification votes have occurred.

In 1996, the leadership of the United Transportation Union—now the Transportation Division of the Sheet Metal, Air, Rail and Transportation Workers (SMART-TD)—overrode its members’ rejection of a tentative agreement on wages, benefits and work rules. Rather than return to the negotiating table or order a work stoppage, either of which was sought by members, the union’s leadership made a deal with carriers to send the member-rejected tentative contract to binding arbitration, where a carrier-friendly award was imposed.
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https://www.railwayage.com/freight/class-i/might-union-chiefs-override-member-vote/

I have a hard time thinking this works as the railroads will still grind to a halt as already long abused and pissed of workers wont take it.


EDIT: Hearing far to many times "Dont talk about that THAT would not be productive" is why I stopped being a D in the late 80's, this is when I figured out that there was cancer in the Left.
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
If the railroads stop working for any significant length of time we are then instantly in a depression.
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Well, Joke has already put regulations in place requiring two-man crews versus one with positive automatic control which is safer, and reciprocal switching that adds massive amounts of cost and complexity to rail operations, so he's doing all he seemingly can to fuck up the railroads with bureaucratic mandates.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Well, Joke has already put regulations in place requiring two-man crews versus one with positive automatic control which is safer, and reciprocal switching that adds massive amounts of cost and complexity to rail operations, so he's doing all he seemingly can to fuck up the railroads with bureaucratic mandates.
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The safety culture which was built over many decades and then was destroyed by idiotic modern managements was in place not just for the morale of the workers but also because failure to run a safe operation was certainly going to lead to catastrophic problems. Railroads are inherently dangerous.....something folks once broadly understood....but no more.
 
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