Ashli Babbitt’s killer Admitted He Didn’t Know If She Was Threat

T. A. Gardner said:
The officer shot her in the back.
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You expect to be taken seriously when you make such obvious false claims?
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/department-justice-closes-investigation-death-ashli-babbitt
An officer inside the Speaker’s Lobby fired one round from his service pistol, striking Ms. Babbitt in the left shoulder, causing her to fall back from the doorway and onto the floor.

"A fourth person, 35-year-old Ashli Babbitt, who was fatally shot by a Capitol police officer inside the Capitol, was struck by a bullet to her front left shoulder, the medical examiner said in a statement."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...806608-97cf-11eb-a6d0-13d207aadb78_story.html

When you start with the wrong facts, your conclusions are suspect.
 
Theywillneverlearn! said:
Do not confuse a liberal with facts.
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Don't you mean "alternative facts?"
Is Ashli Babbitt built differently from other humans in that her front is really her back?

Diaz determined that Babbitt, 35, died as a result of a gunshot wound to her left anterior shoulder, and called the manner of her death a “homicide.”
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Her anterior is not the same thing as the posterior you have your head up.
 
Fascists think it is permissible to violently attack the Capitol Building and seriously injure 150 cops. Ashli Babbitt is a criminal and deserved to be shot.
 
ZenMode said:
I don't think there's really a one size fits all rule for deadly force. It's very subjective because it's based mostly on the officer feeling like their life is threatened. Some states word it differently, but that's the general idea and wouldn't require the suspect to be armed or even known to be armed.

The situation with Babbitt is definitely in a gray area.
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It isn't a "grey area." The thing that overwhelmingly makes her shooting wrong and criminal is the the officer fled the scene after shooting her. Have you ever seen a police shooting where the cop just gets back in their patrol car and leaves? One where the officer shoots someone, then turns and runs away? That's what this officer did.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It isn't a "grey area." The thing that overwhelmingly makes her shooting wrong and criminal is the the officer fled the scene after shooting her. Have you ever seen a police shooting where the cop just gets back in their patrol car and leaves? One where the officer shoots someone, then turns and runs away? That's what this officer did.
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You support Trump's violent coup attempt.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It isn't a "grey area." The thing that overwhelmingly makes her shooting wrong and criminal is the the officer fled the scene after shooting her. Have you ever seen a police shooting where the cop just gets back in their patrol car and leaves? One where the officer shoots someone, then turns and runs away? That's what this officer did.
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Link or just standard Trumpian bullshit?

In police shootings isn't the proper procedure for the officer to turn in their weapon and go on administrative leave until it can be investigated?

Of course, the violent mob, which Trump condemned, slowed down that investigation. All the injured police officers would have hampered the investigation too.

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floridafan said:
She would be alive today, if she had not chosen to break into that building. She made her choice and lost.
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And George Floyd would be alive today if he had not chosen to get high on drugs pass a forged check and fight with the cops...he made his choice and lost
 
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T. A. Gardner said:
Had those outside started to try to beat down the door, that would be considered a violent act, and if they were making serious attempts to do so, say like using an improvised battering ram, then lethal force would have been justified.

That isn't the case with Babbitt. There, you have a single protester climbing through an opening. She clearly isn't armed, and her back is turned to the officer. He could have stepped out and tried verbal commands. He didn't.

Worse, he fled the scene after shooting her. If she were such a horrible threat, why did he flee rather than stay and control the situation assisting the other officers present?
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She attacked our democracy. She was justifiably neutralized for doing it. Thank goodness no more of your terrorist buddies were killed. She sure did deserve to have her racist bimbo brains blown out for it.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
How difficult is this to understand? Ashli Babbit was the only person of the mob that was entering the locked hallway which contained the offices of Congressional members by climbing through a window. Ashli Babbit is the only person that was shot. Pretending facts don't exist doesn't make them go away.
The mob was yelling threats against members of Congress.
The mob was breaking windows that prevented them from getting to members of Congress
When one of the mob attempted to go through one of the broken windows allowing them to possibly attack members of Congress a member of the police whose job it was to protect members of Congress shot them.

While you may not like it that she was shot, the likelihood of convicting that officer in a court of law is pretty slim. The problem you have on this message board is you are not looking at all the facts and being very selective in which ones you think matter. That's not the way the law works.
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Again. Why was she the only person shot when there were so many others who came in further than she did, Mr. Lawyer?
 
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