Biden, Saudi crown prince

volsrock said:
He is really making them pay for the murder of Jamal Khashoggi



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Biden believes that Israeli fascists shooting an American journalist in Palestine and Saudi tyrants chopping one up in Turkey are forgivable actions on the part of America's ' allies '.
Any journalist giving this asshole good press isn't worthy of the name.
 
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it's not just oil.
Kingdom of SA is a long time strategic partner in the middle east,and a counter to Iranian terrorism/Quds
( see USA/KSA Special Relationship)

KSA was on tract to sign the Abraham Accords by MbS, but King Salman (whom Biden also met)
wont do it. Evey indication is MbS will - and that would be historic and a real check on Iranian hegemony

MbS has also been working internal reforms such as disempowering the religious police
and allow for less stringent gender segregation.. it's a start.

Also KSA has been seeking closer ties with Russia. KSA will not condemn the invasion.
We saw what happened when Obama put sanctions on el-Sisi's "junta government" (Egypt)-
he went to Russia for weapons, nuclear plants, and agriculture instead.

Sometimes you gotta swallow human rights for realpolitik
Improving US/Saudi relations is absolutely imperative..
I criticize Biden on his foreign policy, but this time he's acting like the grown up in the region
 
christiefan915 said:
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did Trump ever state he was going to punish SA?

“We were going to, in fact, make them pay the price, and make them, in fact, the pariah that they are,” Biden said at a 2019 Democratic debate.





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He lied to the American people acted like tough guy only to go there and kiss their ass
 
volsrock said:
did Trump ever state he was going to punish SA?

“We were going to, in fact, make them pay the price, and make them, in fact, the pariah that they are,” Biden said at a 2019 Democratic debate.

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He lied to the American people acted like tough guy only to go there and kiss their ass
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Of course trump never said it because his snout was all the way up MBS's nether regions. And, he's so amoral and sociopathic that Khashoggi's death meant nothing to him.

iu
 
Khas-hoggi's death meant nothing to him.
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it still doesnt have any meaning Well OK Human Rights..and??
The Special Realtionship is paramount with the rise of a nuke Iran
Khashoggi was Muslim Brotherhood (his bio calls him a WAPO writer..occasionally yes.)

https://time.com/5944070/us-sanction-mohammed-bin-salman/
Saudi Arabia is central to ongoing U.S. efforts to offset Iran’s expansionist ambitions in the Middle East, to continue to strengthen ties between Israel and the Arab world, and to help Washington fight the violent extremism Riyadh’s fundamentalist clerics have been accused of helping foster. The nation hosts key U.S. military and intelligence posts, and buys billions in U.S. military equipment, even after a recent Biden ban on offensive weapons sales to the country to stop MBS’s increasingly bloody campaign in Yemen. “Militarily speaking, we have obligations there in Saudi Arabia, and we’re going to continue to meet those,” Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told reporters. Indeed, Saudi news agencies reported that Saudi and U.S. troops began a joint training exercise just two days after the Khashoggi report’s release.
 
dukkha said:
it's not just oil.
Kingdom of SA is a long time strategic partner in the middle east,and a counter to Iranian terrorism/Quds
( see USA/KSA Special Relationship)

KSA was on tract to sign the Abraham Accords by MbS, but King Salman (whom Biden also met)
wont do it. Evey indication is MbS will - and that would be historic and a real check on Iranian hegemony
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Iranian hegemony ? Have the Iranians invaded somebody ? Are they bombing Israel ?
What is hegemonic about the Iranians attempting to build their defenses against US/Israeli fascists attack ?

MbS has also been working internal reforms such as disempowering the religious police
and allow for less stringent gender segregation.. it's a start.
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He's a butcher

Sometimes you gotta swallow human rights for realpolitik
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Somebody ELSE'S human rights, you mean.

Yanqui, go home.
 
dukkha said:
The Special Realtionship is paramount with the rise of a nuke Iran
Khashoggi was Muslim Brotherhood (his bio calls him a WAPO writer..occasionally yes.)
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Steaming horseshit. There is no Iranian nuke. That's the conclusion of the CIA and the IAEA.

' Muslim Brotherhood ' is exactly what it describes. Your defense of Saudi butchery is contemptible- as is Biden.
 
moon said:
Steaming horseshit. There is no Iranian nuke. That's the conclusion of the CIA and the IAEA.

' Muslim Brotherhood ' is exactly what it describes. Your defense of Saudi butchery is contemptible- as is Biden.
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"rise of a nuke Iran" -they are very close. it's inevitable.
Ill take the saudi butchers over the Iranian terrorists
 
Pucker Up Fuckers is probably more fitting.

I have run out sympathy for the Modern Morons...you get what you get now.
 
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