DeSantis or Trump

archives said:
First off, since DeSantis had the State withhold statistics, and in some cases edit numbers, no one knows for sure Florida’s Covid numbers, and, given Florida had a three month head start to prepare for Covid, I wouldn’t say “midpoint” is all that celebratory

Large number of those “moving” to Florida are snowbirds, not surprising given the now retired Boomer numbers, they stay seven months to get State citizenship, and then book back and forth as they please. Them there gated communities are growing
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no the numbers weern't edited, that crazy woman that got fired claimed they were.
And im not talking case counts -meaningless - i mean hospitalization and deaths

And it's not just "gated communities" Orlando is busting at the seams.
Universal is building a whole new park. . everything is growing - but mostly condos and apartments

Snowbirds aren't residents - they came an go with the seasons -
you have to spend 183 days in a years here to be counted as a resident
 
archives said:
How could a he lose, he’s gerrymandered the State in his favor and has his election police ready if it were even predicted to be a close election, and he is running now beyond the State of Florida
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Gerrymandering doesnt effect a state wide election. "election police"? lol
Newsom is the one running ads outside Ca. I dont think DeSantis is
 
anatta said:
no the numbers weern't edited, that crazy woman that got fired claimed they were.
And im not talking case counts -meaningless - i mean hospitalization and deaths

And it's not just "gated communities" Orlando is busting at the seams.
Universal is building a whole new park. . everything is growing - but mostly condos and apartments

Snowbirds aren't residents - they came an go with the seasons -
you have to spend 183 days in a years here to be counted as a resident
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You don't have to die nor even go into the hospital to suffer from Covid, and if DeSantis did the job you claim he case counts are also relevant, especially as I said, he had a three month head start to get ready

Yeah, gated communities near Orlando, isn't the Villages just north of Orlando

Exactly, 183 days equates to two days over six months, and once established, they come and go as they please, often spending two or three months in Florida
 
anatta said:
Gerrymandering doesnt effect a state wide election. "election police"? lol
Newsom is the one running ads outside Ca. I dont think DeSantis is
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DeSantis has made trips to several MidWest States, Iowa several times, and with Federal positions on the ballot as Congress, gerrymandering can effect the turnout knowing your vote is just about useless

And as for DeSantis's election police:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/florida-governor-signs-bill-creating-election-police-unit
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/25/flo...igns-bill-creating-election-police-unit-.html
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/25/desantis-florida-election-police-units-00027577
https://www.axios.com/2022/04/25/desantis-florida-election-police

Getting ready to "investigate" fraud that doesn't exist
 
anatta said:
normally that's how it goes..im just wondering if he wants to do it or spend the full term here..he's still young and can run next time, but I would be surprised if he doesnt do a POTUS run now
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I’m certainly not some political guru Karl Rove type but from a timing perspective it seems like now would be an optimal opportunity. If he runs and wins the nomination he would be facing either an 82 year old incumbent likely with low pill numbers or someone like Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom, people he probably thinks he can beat.

That’s not to say he couldn’t wait and run in the future but have to think he’s thinking he can win now.
 
archives said:
DeSantis has made trips to several MidWest States, Iowa several times, and with Federal positions on the ballot as Congress, gerrymandering can effect the turnout knowing your vote is just about useless

And as for DeSantis's election police:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/florida-governor-signs-bill-creating-election-police-unit
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/25/flo...igns-bill-creating-election-police-unit-.html
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/25/desantis-florida-election-police-units-00027577
https://www.axios.com/2022/04/25/desantis-florida-election-police

Getting ready to "investigate" fraud that doesn't exist
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doesnt sound bad to me . voting is a right, but not ballot harvsting, and voters lists are not static
I've read of states that dont allow but very cursory voting lists update, but id have to source that
This agency will review allegations of fraud, initiate independent inquiries and carry out preliminary investigations.
The new law also requires DeSantis to appoint special officers to investigate election law violations, increases penalties for third-party collections of completed ballots and mandates more frequent voter list maintenance.
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lol. I live in Orlando. Val Demmings is my Critter - it's an overwhelming Dem bastion
My vote is useless, but not for state wide, if voters in safe seats dont want to vote,
no skin off anyones back. same with gerrymandering
Curious what those trips were, it could be an indication he is running more then for governor
 
cawacko said:
I’m certainly not some political guru Karl Rove type but from a timing perspective it seems like now would be an optimal opportunity. If he runs and wins the nomination he would be facing either an 82 year old incumbent likely with low pill numbers or someone like Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom, people he probably thinks he can beat.

That’s not to say he couldn’t wait and run in the future but have to think he’s thinking he can win now.
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If i had to bet on it i'd say he's running -but he's only 43 -same age as JFK was when he took office
 
anatta said:
If i had to bet on it i'd say he's running -but he's only 43 -same age as JFK was when he took office
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You are definitely not wrong to think at that age he would have future opportunities if he waits. Being political junkies it would be fun to be a fly on the wall when he and his advisors are having honest discussions about the pros and cons of running now and what they think his path would look like in the future if he chooses to wait.
 
anatta said:
doesnt sound bad to me . voting is a right, but not ballot harvsting, and voters lists are not static
I've read of states that dont allow but very cursory voting lists update, but id have to source that


lol. I live in Orlando. Val Demmings is my Critter - it's an overwhelming Dem bastion
My vote is useless, but not for state wide, if voters in safe seats dont want to vote,
no skin off anyones back. same with gerrymandering
Curious what those trips were, it could be an indication he is running more then for governor
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Establishing a special entity to suddenly "investigate" elections, answerable to the Governor in a year he is running, when there is no evidence of election fraud challenging anything in Florida, isn't a bit suspicious?

Governor of Iowa or Nebraska?
 
anatta said:
If i had to bet on it i'd say he's running -but he's only 43 -same age as JFK was when he took office
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He's running, you know he is running, everybody in America who pays any attention knows he is running, and 2024 could be his shot, why wait when you think the GOP will win knowing you might have to wait till you are 53, that would be another decade being just a Governor when you think you aspire to something bigger
 
archives said:
You don't have to die nor even go into the hospital to suffer from Covid, and if DeSantis did the job you claim he case counts are also relevant, especially as I said, he had a three month head start to get ready

Yeah, gated communities near Orlando, isn't the Villages just north of Orlando

Exactly, 183 days equates to two days over six months, and once established, they come and go as they please, often spending two or three months in Florida
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Villages are about a little over an hour dr. to the NW. not really in the same metro area, but gated communities are everywhere
I was mention ing new construction is almost all condo or apts here
That 183 days is every year. I know quite a few snowbirds, and if the are just coming down for the winter..they dont vote here.

hospitalization is a key metric, cases counts are so inflated with PCR tests that use too many cycles .

a positive test is meaningless in terms of suffering - although early prophylaxis use was frowned upon by our ossified, politicized worthless CDC and such.

DeSantis to his credit had monoclonal antibodies stationed all over Florida. I think he was the only governor to do that, before Biden pulled the rug out from under because he wanted to "save" for other states
 
archives said:
He's running, you know he is running, everybody in America who pays any attention knows he is running, and 2024 could be his shot, why wait when you think the GOP will win knowing you might have to wait till you are 53, that would be another decade being just a Governor when you think you aspire to something bigger
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well his wife is now free from breast cancer. and running is a yuge commitment.
I do agree he's not going to bullied out of the primaries by Trump or anyone else if he does.

He did serve in Iraq and got a Bronze Star, and was in Congress and this would be a 2 term governor-
agree the logical progression is a POTUS run
 
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