25% Americans open to armed action against government

signalmankenneth said:
Anyone who is open to armed action against the government is a moron?!![h=2]
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so you consider the founding fathers morons.........got it
 
BartenderElite said:
Serious question: does anyone think that an armed insurrection (that was successful) would lead to MORE freedom for the people?

I can't help but think about 1/6. If that crew actually took over our government - we would most certainly not be more free. At least many Americans would not be.

We live with more liberty than most humans in the history of the earth. I'm still mystified how people think this is anything close to tyranny. And if they do, they can change things peacefully - they just need to win w/ their ideas, build voting coalitions, and change our leaders on election days, which happen quite frequently.

I guess that's probably too much effort.
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what you find yourself unable to reconcile is that not everybody is a two dimensional individual like you idiots are. there are many of us 'independents' that you stupidly classify as rightwing/trumpists/fence sitters......WE will be the deciding factor in that. IF there should be a revolution and we win, yes.....there will be more freedom for those that wish more freedom. For those of you slaves that wish more government control, there will only be exile.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
so you consider the founding fathers morons.........got it
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The founding fathers supported armed action against a tyrannical government where they had zero representation.

I doubt that they would support the same against THIS government, the one they created, with all the checks & balances and the people's ability to literally replace everyone who serves in it every other year.
 
BartenderElite said:
The founding fathers supported armed action against a tyrannical government where they had zero representation.

I doubt that they would support the same against THIS government, the one they created, with all the checks & balances and the people's ability to literally replace everyone who serves in it every other year.
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the founding fathers would have executed all of you for supporting the very tyranny you claim to be against.............the simple fact is that YOU don't replace anyone, you keep voting in the same fucking tyrants every two years..........
 
SmarterthanYou said:
what you find yourself unable to reconcile is that not everybody is a two dimensional individual like you idiots are. there are many of us 'independents' that you stupidly classify as rightwing/trumpists/fence sitters......WE will be the deciding factor in that. IF there should be a revolution and we win, yes.....there will be more freedom for those that wish more freedom. For those of you slaves that wish more government control, there will only be exile.
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Nah. You can't get most Americans to agree w/ you (if you could, the people you support would be winning elections) - so, any government that resulted would by its very nature be more geared toward the minority, and more oppressive for the masses.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
the founding fathers would have executed all of you for supporting the very tyranny you claim to be against.............the simple fact is that YOU don't replace anyone, you keep voting in the same fucking tyrants every two years..........
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So, you're faulting them & the way they set the country up. You disagree w/ the Constitution and how we elect our leaders.
 
BartenderElite said:
Nah. You can't get most Americans to agree w/ you (if you could, the people you support would be winning elections) - so, any government that resulted would by its very nature be more geared toward the minority, and more oppressive for the masses.
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because that's exactly what the founders did, as a minority, didn't they? moron.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
if that's how you need to see it to feel better about your incompetence, so be it. you can die as easily as the rest
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What exactly is my "incompetence?" Thinking the founders set things up well, and believing in the Constitution?

Sorry - you're the tyranny in waiting. You're the one who wants to tear down what they created.
 
BartenderElite said:
Serious question: does anyone think that an armed insurrection (that was successful) would lead to MORE freedom for the people?

I can't help but think about 1/6. If that crew actually took over our government - we would most certainly not be more free. At least many Americans would not be.

We live with more liberty than most humans in the history of the earth. I'm still mystified how people think this is anything close to tyranny. And if they do, they can change things peacefully - they just need to win w/ their ideas, build voting coalitions, and change our leaders on election days, which happen quite frequently.

I guess that's probably too much effort.
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The law would mean nothing anymore.

Everything would be decided by force.

That's all the right understands.
 
BartenderElite said:
What exactly is my "incompetence?" Thinking the founders set things up well, and believing in the Constitution?

Sorry - you're the tyranny in waiting. You're the one who wants to tear down what they created.
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the founders did set things up well and believed in the Constitution. what they also knew is that people could be dumb or naive and believe that political parties were best for freedom, they are not. what you see as 'tearing down' what they created is actually restoring what they created..........but you're too stupid to see that because you're a democrat disciple.
 
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