Gas Prices Falling

If only the greedy oil execs would ramp up more production we could have even lower prices.

But in a way, high prices are a good thing for the environment.

If people can't afford to fill up then they quit driving so much, quit burning so much gas, reduce the amount of carbon going into the atmosphere.
 
Hello Lurch,

LurchAddams said:
I'm semi-retired. The only time I've driven anywhere in the last week is to the grocery store and to a couple restaurant bars close to my house.

Since many folks tele-commute from when Covid was happening, I'm not sure the gas prices are having that catastrophic an effect on anyone other than transportation or industries that run on fossil fuel products.
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In the long run it's a good thing if we drive less.
 
Biden administration poised to raise gas costs another dollar or more

Yep, Joke is doubling down on stupid. This time he is allowing the EPA to impose very tight ozone pollution standards--ones that will do NOTHING for cleaner air. These new standards will severely curtail new drilling in the Permian Basin, as well as impose significant costs on producing wells in pollution controls. This is a variant of earlier EPA attempts to lower ozone pollution standards in urban areas of the US from 75 ppb (virtually nothing) to 70 ppb at a cost of roughly $100 billion a year.
This is ENTIRELY Joke Biden's fault. It 100% belongs to him. If allowed to go into force--and it looks like it will--gas prices will rise by as much as $2 a gallon over where they are now.

World’s Biggest Oil Field Faces Pollution Rules That Could Curb Drilling
EPA considering ozone violation designation for Permian Basin
Move could trigger tougher scrutiny of new drilling operations
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...urbs#xj4y7vzkg

Officials react to EPA plan for Permian air quality designation
https://www.mrt.com/business/oil/art...r-17271190.php


Credit to T.A Gardner
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Lurch,



In the long run it's a good thing if we drive less.
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Oh totally. Seattle has really upgraded its public transportation system. We have a light rail system that spans almost 30 miles north of downtown and south of downtown all the way to the airport. There's a light rail station with long-term parking right by my house.

I'll never drive to SeaTac again.
 
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Reasons to me if one thinks climate change is an existential crisis then high gas prices are a good thing. From a political perspective there’s the conundrum of many voters liking cheap gas.
 
Hello cawacko,

cawacko said:
Reasons to me if one thinks climate change is an existential crisis then high gas prices are a good thing. From a political perspective there’s the conundrum of many voters liking cheap gas.
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Nobody ever said doing the right thing was popular. Jimmy Carter advised Americans to set the thermostat a little colder in winter and wear a sweater. Americans didn't want to hear that. He is a good leader. Too bad we didn't listen more to him. He was right, but being right does not equate into popularity.
 
its down marginally from recent highs on sentimate that recession is neigh which would calm demand. Still very high.
could trickle down further but it wont be returning to pre Biden levels without restoring production.
 
Learn to be a hyper-miler. That's nothing but changing driving habits to consume less fuel.

It's fun!

Simply discover and use every little safe legal trick that gets you where you need to go while consuming less fuel.

So you're gonna learn to shift into gear and start rolling as quickly as possible when starting up.

Accelerate slowly. If you have an ECO light, learn to keep it on by sparing the gas pedal.

Don't exceed the speed limit. Slower speeds generally get better mileage as long as you are in your highest gear.

Time the traffic signals. Ideally, you never stop. Look ahead, see a light changing, foot off gas. Car in neutral. Start coasting. The best case is the light flips green before you get to the line-up of speed racers waiting for it. You just roll on through. Back in gear, back to watching the ECO light.

Inflate tires to the max allowed on the tire. Take curves and turns as fast as is safe.

Reduce the use of the AC. You can still use it and save gas. Set the AC to the coldest setting, recirculate, and the fan on high. When you feel a little chilly, turn off the AC button but let the fan keep blowing. Turn the AC button back on when it gets too warm. Keep repeating that. The AC button is the gas-eater. Only keep it on when needed. The vents will still blow cold for a while when it is off, and you're saving gas while it is off.

If it's nice enough to have the AC constantly off, keep the windows almost all the way up for ventilation at highway speeds. Fully open windows cause turbulent airflow and waste gas.

Find a 'follow vehicle' for highway driving. Keep a safe distance behind a large vehicle. This reduces wind resistance and increases mileage. You don't have to get unsafely close for this to work. Safe distance, the effect still works better than no follow vehicle.

Turn the car off while waiting at lights. Particularly if it is a large intersection and you just missed the green. A lot of modern cars do this automatically as a way of saving gas. It's no secret that having the engine running while not moving is a big gas waster.

Park in a spot near the road, not near the store. Walk across big parking lots. Choose your parking space so you can pull forward without using reverse when leaving. Best case is a space where you can see if traffic is clear to pull back out onto the road before starting your car.

Have your car properly tuned with a fresh air filter. Empty out any unneeded items so you're carrying around less weight.

Multi-purpose your driving trips. Save up errands, do 'em all in one trip going from one to another on a planned route.

The fun comes when you begin to add up your savings. Check your mileage before you start this. Then check again after you try it. You might be able to make your car go 1.5 times as far on a tank of gas. That would cut the amount you're spending at the pump to 75% of what you are paying.

If your car normally gets 20 mpg, and you can increase that to 30 mpg that represents a lot of money. If you drive 15K miles per year at 20 mpg and $4 a gallon, Here's the math: 15K miles / 20mpg = 750 gallons. 750 gallons * $4/gal = $3000 per year in gas. Now, with hyper-miling here's the math: 15K miles / 30mpg = 500 gallons. 500 gal * $4/gal = $2000. You could save $1000 per year. And that's just the gas. Your tires and brakes will last far longer than hard driving habits. How much do they cost you?

Hyper-miling saves gas, saves money, saves tires, saves brakes, and saves the environment.

Hyper-miling reduces gas prices by reducing demand.
 
Hello Lurch,

LurchAddams said:
Oh totally. Seattle has really upgraded its public transportation system. We have a light rail system that spans almost 30 miles north of downtown and south of downtown all the way to the airport. There's a light rail station with long-term parking right by my house.

I'll never drive to SeaTac again.
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Awesome!
 
I am not claiming Biden did this, but he has taken whatever steps he could take to reduce gas prices.

Gas prices are far more dependent on world events and oil company executives.

I think a lot of our inflation is just price gouging. Basically because they can get away with it.
 
PoliTalker said:
I am not claiming Biden did this, but he has taken whatever steps he could take to reduce gas prices.

Gas prices are far more dependent on world events and oil company executives.

I think a lot of our inflation is just price gouging. Basically because they can get away with it.
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Biden materially reduced domestic production and has done nothing to restore it.
 
PoliTalker said:
Learn to be a hyper-miler. That's nothing but changing driving habits to consume less fuel.

It's fun!

Simply discover and use every little safe legal trick that gets you where you need to go while consuming less fuel.

So you're gonna learn to shift into gear and start rolling as quickly as possible when starting up.

Accelerate slowly. If you have an ECO light, learn to keep it on by sparing the gas pedal.

Don't exceed the speed limit. Slower speeds generally get better mileage as long as you are in your highest gear.

Time the traffic signals. Ideally, you never stop. Look ahead, see a light changing, foot off gas. Car in neutral. Start coasting. The best case is the light flips green before you get to the line-up of speed racers waiting for it. You just roll on through. Back in gear, back to watching the ECO light.

Inflate tires to the max allowed on the tire. Take curves and turns as fast as is safe.

Reduce the use of the AC. You can still use it and save gas. Set the AC to the coldest setting, recirculate, and the fan on high. When you feel a little chilly, turn off the AC button but let the fan keep blowing. Turn the AC button back on when it gets too warm. Keep repeating that. The AC button is the gas-eater. Only keep it on when needed. The vents will still blow cold for a while when it is off, and you're saving gas while it is off.

If it's nice enough to have the AC constantly off, keep the windows almost all the way up for ventilation at highway speeds. Fully open windows cause turbulent airflow and waste gas.

Find a 'follow vehicle' for highway driving. Keep a safe distance behind a large vehicle. This reduces wind resistance and increases mileage. You don't have to get unsafely close for this to work. Safe distance, the effect still works better than no follow vehicle.

Turn the car off while waiting at lights. Particularly if it is a large intersection and you just missed the green. A lot of modern cars do this automatically as a way of saving gas. It's no secret that having the engine running while not moving is a big gas waster.

Park in a spot near the road, not near the store. Walk across big parking lots. Choose your parking space so you can pull forward without using reverse when leaving. Best case is a space where you can see if traffic is clear to pull back out onto the road before starting your car.

Have your car properly tuned with a fresh air filter. Empty out any unneeded items so you're carrying around less weight.

Multi-purpose your driving trips. Save up errands, do 'em all in one trip going from one to another on a planned route.

The fun comes when you begin to add up your savings. Check your mileage before you start this. Then check again after you try it. You might be able to make your car go 1.5 times as far on a tank of gas. That would cut the amount you're spending at the pump to 75% of what you are paying.

If your car normally gets 20 mpg, and you can increase that to 30 mpg that represents a lot of money. If you drive 15K miles per year at 20 mpg and $4 a gallon, Here's the math: 15K miles / 20mpg = 750 gallons. 750 gallons * $4/gal = $3000 per year in gas. Now, with hyper-miling here's the math: 15K miles / 30mpg = 500 gallons. 500 gal * $4/gal = $2000. You could save $1000 per year. And that's just the gas. Your tires and brakes will last far longer than hard driving habits. How much do they cost you?

Hyper-miling saves gas, saves money, saves tires, saves brakes, and saves the environment.

Hyper-miling reduces gas prices by reducing demand.
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Are you so ignorant that you are unaware of the fact literally everything you touch involves oil or natural gas production. It is the lifeblood of the world's economy. Oh, I forgot, you are still double masked in your basment quakeing ofer the threat of the China Virus.
 
Lionfish said:
Are you so ignorant that you are unaware of the fact literally everything you touch involves oil or natural gas production. It is the lifeblood of the world's economy. Oh, I forgot, you are still double masked in your basment quakeing ofer the threat of the China Virus.
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I drive the '62 Corvette back and forth from the club. (I played decently today but tightened up after nine holes and called it a day. The steroid epidural is helping, though. Love better living through chemistry.)

That's it, though.
Otherwise, I leave the Grand Cherokee in the garage and take cabs around town.
Fuck the city traffic.
Let the pros deal with it.
They've got to make a living too, but I'm too old and set in my ways for UBER. I hate smart phones.
Thank the heavens we still have taxis in Boston. I don't even think of gasoline prices.

I think of how the right wing SCOTUS turned the US into North Korea.
That's a little more important that the fucking price of petrol as far as I'm concerned.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I drive the '62 Corvette back and forth from the club. (I played decently today but tightened up after nine holes and called it a day. The steroid epidural is helping, though. Love better living through chemistry.)

That's it, though.
Otherwise, I leave the Grand Cherokee in the garage and take cabs around town.
Fuck the city traffic.
Let the pros deal with it.
They've got to make a living too, but I'm too old and set in my ways for UBER. I hate smart phones.
Thank the heavens we still have taxis in Boston. I don't even think of gasoline prices.

I think of how the right wing SCOTUS turned the US into North Korea.
That's a little more important that the fucking price of petrol as far as I'm concerned.
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I really don't give a shit what you drive. Anyone who calls for any Supreme Court justices to be killed should be immediately removed from this forum
Fuck you asshole.
 
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