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A 65 percent chance of recession; It is 'economic stupidity' to deny inflation's true cause - Steve Hanke

Kitco News Monday June 13, 2022 10:38


(Kitco News) - A 65 percent chance of a recession is "pretty reasonable," said Steve Hanke, Professor of Applied Economics at Johns Hopkins University.

Many analysts are forecasting a stagflation, a period of recession combined with high inflation. Hanke sees stagflation as a possibility. He added that it is "economic stupidity" to deny that excess money causes inflation.

Hanke spoke with David Lin, Anchor and Producer at Kitco News.

Recession on the horizon

"I happen to think there's a fairly high probability we'll have a recession, because the Federal Reserve is flying blind, afraid about inflation," said Hanke. "Usually when that happens, they tend to overdo things, tightening things up too fast, and dumping the economy into a recession."

Hanke said that the Federal Reserve needs to focus on the money supply, instead of just raising rates. A "soft landing," without too much damage to the economy, is possible, he explained.

"There have been three episodes when the Fed raised the Fed funds rate considerably and the money supply didn't go down that much," Hanke remarked. "I'd want to get the money supply to the golden growth rate of 5 to 6 percent of M2, that measure of the money supply. And that would allow, eventually, the inflation rate to get down to 2 percent… It's all about the growth in the money supply… Everyone focuses on these interest rates but they're a very bad indicator of what's going on with the money supply."

Yet Hanke was not optimistic about the Federal Reserve doing as he suggested.

"I think they will probably overdo it, and we will see the money supply go down pretty sharply," he said. "… And if that happens, we'll end up with stagflation… I think Biden will interfere massively. Whatever is going on in the Fed, Biden and The White House will have their fingers all over everything."

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Inflation is inevitable

Hanke said that inflation is "already baked into the cake" and that it will be around for "the next couple of years."

"No matter what you do today, even if [The Fed] overdid a tightening, and you had a recession, you're still going to have that inflation to deal with," he explained.

The U.S. inflation rate is now at a 40-year high of 8.6 percent. Hanke blamed the Federal Reserve's loose monetary policy for high inflation.

"We're talking about a Fed that got us into this mess in the first place, the highest inflation we've had in 40 years," he said. "And they were never able to anticipate or predict it even. They didn't know what they were doing. They were flying blind."

In response to the claim that supply shortages are causing inflation currently, Hanke responded, "There's only one cause [of inflation]: excess money… These people who poo-poo monetarism, they literally don't' know what they're talking about."

https://www.kitco.com/news/2022-06-...-deny-inflation-s-true-cause-Steve-Hanke.html
 
That means there is a 35% chance of no recession, with a 65% chance of a minor recession. If trump was still in office, we could expect much worse.

Wally, you are an idiot. We are already in a recession and apparently everyone but you are aware of that fact.
 
We might actually be, but if so it must be such a minor recession that no one has really felt it.

This post should be enshrined in the Smithsonian...”no one has really felt it.”

Walter, are you aware that the bond curve has reversed...twice?
 
First off, what the hell is “Kitco,” and why should anyone be concerned with anything they say?

Secondly, if you remove as much money from circulation as you can as quick as you can to address inflation a recession is just about guaranteed, pretty funny how the right cries about inflation and then the consequences of addressing inflation
 
another factoid they slipped in is that while they have had a 2%inflation target for years, they're changing that to 4% now.
Tells you they know that getting back to where we were isnt going to happen.
 
Labor participation is down.

Older workers are not returning to the workforce. That was half expected, the number of people reaching retiring age has been rising.

What will not change that is a recession. People are less likely, not more likely, to enter a workforce during a recession.
 
First off, what the hell is “Kitco,” and why should anyone be concerned with anything they say?

Secondly, if you remove as much money from circulation as you can as quick as you can to address inflation a recession is just about guaranteed, pretty funny how the right cries about inflation and then the consequences of addressing inflation
so you want that "soft landing" -when does that ever happen?
We're crashing our way into a recession, i cant see any other way to halt inflation
 
Older workers are not returning to the workforce. That was half expected, the number of people reaching retiring age has been rising.

What will not change that is a recession. People are less likely, not more likely, to enter a workforce during a recession.
We also have had a lot of COVID deaths, I’m sure 1,000,000 people dying had a effect on the work force. I also read that drug use, drug/opioids have had an effect on the work force. People aren’t able to pass drug tests to qualify for jobs.
 
Housing is starting to roll over,” he said. “Inventories have exploded.”
“There are layoffs in multiple industries, and the Fed is stuck,” he said, with a position of having to “hike [interest rates] until inflation rolls over.”
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...o-go-into-a-really-fast-recession-11655328960


soaring interestr rates priced quite a few out of the market especially first time buyers. But it will hurt 2nd and 3rd buyers as well because intersst will prevent them from upsizing and it will hurt down sizing as well.

so real estate brokers will be laid off along with everyone involved in mortgages, construction, landscaping etc
 
We also have had a lot of COVID deaths, I’m sure 1,000,000 people dying had a effect on the work force. I also read that drug use, drug/opioids have had an effect on the work force. People aren’t able to pass drug tests to qualify for jobs.

If you could get your idiot president to close the borders, the drug deaths would go down dramatically.

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We also have had a lot of COVID deaths, I’m sure 1,000,000 people dying had a effect on the work force. I also read that drug use, drug/opioids have had an effect on the work force. People aren’t able to pass drug tests to qualify for jobs.

Correct.

Huge numbers of trump voters dropped out of the workforce. They refuse to do jobs "beneath them", nor get the education/training to get the job they "deserve". Many are addicted to drugs, and having severe mental problems.

The Baby Boomers are retiring. Some stayed on for longer than they normally would, but they are seeing the pandemic as a sign it is time to retire and enjoy life... Or whatever. It is not all bad.
 
We might actually be, but if so it must be such a minor recession that no one has really felt it.

Wally, you are correct. NOBODY has noticed prices on everything we touch have gone up, thousands of items are unavailable including basics like baby formula and tampoons, mortgage rates are skyrocketing, inflation is at a 40 year high, crime rate has soared, and everybody's pension and 401k's have lost 25% all since Brandon has been in office and Brandon's cabinet looks like the cantina scene from the Star Wars movie set.
I repeat myself, you are an idiot.
 
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