Monad Portal
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the consititution isn't a lie or an exaggeration.
Exaggerations and Lies Fuel GOP Gun Reform Opposition
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the consititution isn't a lie or an exaggeration.
And a law binding militia fully trained in handling such situations stood in a hallway for over an hour, even those prepared for the situation couldn’t handle it, and you are telling us the average Joe is going to preform. Problem here is that gun lovers see themselves as Clint Eastwood when Barney Fife is more appropriate
Also not absolute, all rights in it have been regulated, are regulated, the Second Amendment is no different
Monad Portal
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No one expects any gun law "to solve all the gun problems in America," another exaggeration of the kind I mentioned. The most we can do is lower the carnage. The Second Amendment assures that no law will be able to "disarm law abiding Americans". As for the phony "stepping stone" argument, laws are only stepping stones if they later are made by legislators into something else; they don't make themselves, and legislators aren't puppets caught in some
time warp that impels them to endlessly expand a given law. Dismissing a sound proposal on that basis is cowardly and dishonest. For example, a law imposing an age qualification of 21 would have no "stepping stone" dread whatsoever, and should be passed. By your theory a state law that set 16 as the minimum age for a driver's license would soon be reduced to age 9, but such minimum requirements have remained unchanged law for decades. Let Congress listen to the public on this instead of the NRA and witless ideologues like you.
how many 18-20 year old's are occupying's foreign lands with arms we provide to them? The percent in that demographic is fairly high I would imagine?
It would be hypocrital to say we can't trust that age here - but will provide them with even more dangerous weapons as we send them overseas to occupy other regions
Archives. Seriously. I put you on iggy for a good reason. You're a diaper stain. Fuck off, I'm not reading anything of yours.
Translation: Of course it's a stepping stone.
LOL The Democrats need an agenda. If limiting magazines to 10 rounds was good then limiting them to 5 rounds is better! If some items on the "Assault Weapon" list are good then adding others is better!
Here's the thing you and I don't seem to agree upon: Democrats do want to ban guns but they can't do it all at once.
Like the Republicans chipping away at abortion rights until there are no rights left, the Democrats are doing the same with gun rights. What's next for those two parties? Didn't we see this in George Orwell's "Animal Farm"?
Train civilian 18 year olds in the use and care of arms the same as we train soldiers and that would be a different story. But Congress hesitates at even doing extended background checks, and some of the eighteen year olds who walk out of gun stores with a brand new AR 15 wouldn't pass the mental exam to even get into the armed forces.
Translation: Of course you're a nitwit.
If you say so. I think you are throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks personally.
Throwing shit at the wall. Would that be like a brain dead comparison of trained 18 year old soldiers to any eighteen year old who wants a gun?
the brain dead thinking is that training is the issue
for instance, when does bipolar disorder appear? the average age of onset is 25. so you now have a well trained person with a gun that should not have a gun - and no background check will catch it in time
your desire to solve this with legislation is well meaning, but silly.
A nice argument for taking guns out the equation, or perhaps raising the age requirement to 25 along with required mental exams before arming people with semi assault weapons. Anyway, training is also a deterrent. A disturbed 18 year old itching to shoot up an elementary school needs his weapon "now".
Thanks for reinforcing to all JPP members why Democrats are truly intolerant of opposing views.
so now we have a caste system, where adults of a certain age are vulnerable to adults of another age.
Add in where we have juveniles that get soft sentencing for rule violations, and now the 18-20 year old's become easy targets for people both younger and older
rather than admit the previous attempts to fix issues has made it worse, you keep throwing shit at the wall, and keep making it worse
I'm sorry, but your ideas are ignorant. you can't see the forest through the trees
PoliTalker
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Hello leaningright,
That wasn't a well regulated militia, and it did not ensure the security of 'free state' USA, because none of those crimes threatened the existence of the USA.
Sorry, I'm not spending any of my time looking at *anything* from the NRA.
I support responsible gun ownership.
The NRA is a front for gun profiteers. Most NRA members support full background checks.
The way it is right now, a kook could post all kinds of hateful racist and aggressive hatred laden violent rants on social media, and it would have zero effect on their ability to get a gun. What minimal background checks that exist don't even include looking on social media. It is time for change.
That wasn't a well regulated militia, and it did not ensure the security of 'free state' USA, because none of those crimes threatened the existence of the USA.
Sorry, I'm not spending any of my time looking at *anything* from the NRA.
I support responsible gun ownership.
The NRA is a front for gun profiteers. Most NRA members support full background checks.
The way it is right now, a kook could post all kinds of hateful racist and aggressive hatred laden violent rants on social media, and it would have zero effect on their ability to get a gun. What minimal background checks that exist don't even include looking on social media. It is time for change.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Dutch,
BS. I already answered both of those questions.
I'll repeat my answers to both questions:
The measure would have helped, but it would not have solved all the gun problems in America. More would have been needed.
It is rather obvious why it would not have solved all the gun problems in America. Because Republicans would never vote for a more complete bill intended to do that. That forced Obama to try to get whatever he thought he could get. And that is when the nation learned that Republicans have zero intention of doing anything about our gun problems. That's why they let the AWB expire.
BS. I already answered both of those questions.
I'll repeat my answers to both questions:
The measure would have helped, but it would not have solved all the gun problems in America. More would have been needed.
It is rather obvious why it would not have solved all the gun problems in America. Because Republicans would never vote for a more complete bill intended to do that. That forced Obama to try to get whatever he thought he could get. And that is when the nation learned that Republicans have zero intention of doing anything about our gun problems. That's why they let the AWB expire.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello archives,
Teachers traine to teach, not to be on a SWAT team. If the police can't even deal with an active shooter, how are teachers supposed to do it?
And if teachers are to spend countless hours training to be cold blooded killers, won't that detract from their time spent training to be good teachers?
Our education system is already lacking. We need to let teachers work on that; and let peacekeeping be done by trained peacekeepers.
Teachers traine to teach, not to be on a SWAT team. If the police can't even deal with an active shooter, how are teachers supposed to do it?
And if teachers are to spend countless hours training to be cold blooded killers, won't that detract from their time spent training to be good teachers?
Our education system is already lacking. We need to let teachers work on that; and let peacekeeping be done by trained peacekeepers.