'Why are we willing to live with this carnage?"

[Into the Night]

Although I don't give a fat or skinny fuck about gun control, one way or the other, I do skeeve the crackers who do all the whining about guns.

Biden is a trained fucking lawyer, so if he's asking that question, he's being disingenuous.
The US Constitution makes access to private firearm ownership part and parcel of being an American citizen in good standing.

Whether that's good or bad is pointless to discuss.
While the framers gave us means to amend the Constitution, those means may as well not even exist when the nation is as polarized as it is now.
There's NOTHING we can do about chronic gun violence in America. It's baked into the cake. It's forever.

If liberals want to take away unlimited gun access, we can only do so by seceding from the United States and starting from scratch with a new, Blue State only America.
Then MAYBE it could happen...but I'm not even sure about that. Most Americans of all political ideologies feel naked unarmed.

Won't work. The right of self defense is inherent.
Even in the SDTC, people are getting shot all the time, despite every attempt to take guns away.

 

[Into the Night]

is that how you look at freedom? as a 19th century construct that you reduced to a bumper sticker? biden is one hundred percent wrong.......but then again, he's a democrat and they hate the constitution, freedom, rights, and liberty.

if you want my AR-15, come and take it.

Bingo.
These idiots want to start a fucking war. They have no idea what they are messing with.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Democrats ARE the real problem.

EAT A DICK AND FUCK OFF!

 

[Into the Night]

until you try to do something unconstitutional.........

...which is to ban or limit any weapon in any way.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

See the 2nd amendment. Attempt to discard the Constitution of the United States and various State constitutions.

Fuck you and your 2nd Amendment! The 2nd Amendment is a fucking FRAUD!

It represents nothing the forefathers even imagined or intentioned!

 

[Into the Night]

Not true .... the people made fun of by the right wing punditry ... the community organizers.... have been screaming for decades for better policing (not an occupying force) in conjunction with community input, laws to close "iron pipelines", universal background checks on all gun sales.

It wasn't until the Brady Bill did the ball get rolling nationally.

Reports in the media on such things have become "routine", so it's the "abnormal" shootings that get the publicity. I wish this wasn't the case, but there you have it.

Unconstitutional. See the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th, and 10th amendments and Article I.

 

[Into the Night]

GMAFB! The fall back convoluted logic you gunners use to justify keeping things just as they are is ridiculous, because there's nothing in the French law that prevents a law abiding citizen from owning a weapon.

France is not the United States or the States of America.

 

[Into the Night]

"woke fascists"? Tell me something bunky, are you drunk when you create these neologisms of yours, or are you just plain ignorant?

If you've got a problem with the "police & surveillance state", blame your tin GOP gods in Congress and the Shrub, who gave us the quasi gestapo Homeland Security and the Patriot Act.

A RINO did that, not a conservative.

 

[Into the Night]

You've watched WAY too many TV westerns, bunky.

You've watched too much CNN, bunky.

 

[LurchAddams]

GMAFB! The fall back convoluted logic you gunners use to justify keeping things just as they are is ridiculous, because there's nothing in the French law that prevents a law abiding citizen from owning a weapon.

"The Constitution". When all other arguments fail bring up something they know nothing about. Fucking Republican scum.

 

[Into the Night]

It does not say that.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Yes it does.

The federal government has NO authority to limit or ban the right of a State to defend itself by forming militias.
The federal government has NO authority to limit or ban the right of an individual to keep and bear any weapon.
This amendment also applies to the States and always has.

 

[Into the Night]

Stop defending our constitution. It was written very badly, it can't be amended while we're this polarized, so we're stuck with it until we're ready to give up on the present republic and start anew.

Discard of the Constitution of the United States. Discard of English.

 

[LurchAddams]

he fed a kitten that was shivering on his doorstep.........he's a good hearted piece of crap......

I'll put my character and intelligence and moral righteousness up against you, sorry, cowardly, fake Christians anytime, Princess. You're even too disgusting for my toilet, you sorry fucks.

 

[Into the Night]

I do see Chicago as a problem. TOO MANY GUNS IN CHILDREN'S HANDS!

NOW HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? YOU TELL ME WISE GUY!

Not the problem. Try again.

 

[Into the Night]

Background checks & waiting periods are not infringement, under any legal definition.

Unconstitutional. See the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th, 10th, and 14th amendments and Article I.

 

[Into the Night]

It was written by effete landed gentry, not elite lawyers...and it shows.
It pushed incompatible former colonies into a single nation making horrific compromise to do so.
It gives rural conservatives wildly excessive political power relative to their percentage of the population.
It's a real rag of a document.

People treat it like it came from Mount Sinai, and I doubt if ANYTHING actually came from Mount Sinai.

Discard of the Constitution of the United States and the constitutions of the various States. Support of The Oligarchy. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).

 

[Into the Night]

the founders disagree. you're wrong, so are the courts.

Not about the founders. The Constitution of the United States is the ONLY authoritative reference of the Constitution of the United States.
Background checks violate the 4th and 5th amendments, as well as the 9th, 10th, and 14th amendments. They are also not authorized by Article I.
You are also correct about the courts, which routinely exceed their authority and attempt to change the Constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

you have been given a woefully inadequate and incorrect view of the Constitution.

He does not want a republic. He wants an oligarchy. He doesn't give a damn about a constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

The Founders disagreed with background checks? The did background checks back in the 18th Century?

Let me ask you a question there “smart guy,” if you are such a strict reader of the Constitution, taking what is says verbatim, why can’t bullets be controlled, if not banned outright, bullets aren’t mentioned anywhere in the Constitution?

2nd amendment.

 

[Into the Night]

They are all weapons that are obtained or sold illegally- through LOOPHOLES IN THE SYSTEM!

The Democrats are trying to close the loopholes and the Republicans are trying to create even more!

No such thing as a 'loophole'. The right of self defense is inherent.