Is there any measurable way the country does better with Republican presidents?

[Earl]

" Democrats see the objective as being to protect kids."

Except those unborn kids.

 

[Mina]

Republican performance is better for both teen birth rate and average annual poverty rate. I made posts with this data.

Republican presidential eras saw teen birth rates decline much more slowly, and poverty rates actually increase, net.

Perhaps the silliness of your way of looking at this sticks out to me more because I do financial analysis for a living, and I know that taking that approach would get you laughed out of the room when it comes to stuff where people have to put their money where your mouth is.

For example, you have two investment choices. You put $1 million in one and the value rises to $2 million over the course of a year. In the second investment, you invest $2 million and it falls to $1.1 million over the course of the year. Now you try to argue the second investment was better, because the average value in that investment over the course of the year was slightly higher. Naturally, nobody who made that argument would ever be entrusted with any position of responsibility, because it's patently absurd.

 

[Flash]

no

Check the economic data.

 

[Flash]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...d-restoring-science-to-tackle-climate-crisis/

Day 1 of his presidency, fucktard. If pressed, there's no shortage of evidence of the way Biden's fucked up everything possible, ok?

In other words, you cannot name a policy responsible for inflation?

 

[BartenderElite]

You say that, but it's not true. You know it's not true, therefore you are an intentional liar.

That's bad. That makes you a bad person.

That's a very poor & illogical response.

 

[BidenPresident]

Check the economic data.

you check it

 

[Flash]

you check it

I have and any person of average intelligence can see the extreme positives and negatives of both Biden and Trump. But most people cannot name the policies which caused those results because there are no such policies that account for most of the positives or negatives. Certainly, Biden's policies would take at least a year to cause economic changes but we saw some negatives shortly after taking office.

 

[BidenPresident]

I have and any person of average intelligence can see the extreme positives and negatives of both Biden and Trump. But most people cannot name the policies which caused those results because there are no such policies that account for most of the positives or negatives. Certainly, Biden's policies would take at least a year to cause economic changes but we saw some negatives shortly after taking office.

Trump is a fascist. He gave tax cuts to upper class that harmed most Americans.

 

[Flash]

Trump is a fascist. He gave tax cuts to upper class that harmed most Americans.

It is always easier to attribute positive or negative developments to individuals rather than more complex social and economic conditions.

Going to war? Find a devil to blame it on--Nazis (in Ukraine), Putin, Hitler, Hussein, communists, etc.

Good or bad economy? it was the president of the other party if the economy is bad or the president of our party if it is good.

It is always easier to attack a person than actually read any boring economics--the "Trump is a fascist" and "Let's Go Brandon" approach.

 

[BidenPresident]

It is always easier to attribute positive or negative developments to individuals rather than more complex social and economic conditions.

Going to war? Find a devil to blame it on--Nazis (in Ukraine), Putin, Hitler, Hussein, communists, etc.

Good or bad economy? it was the president of the other party if the economy is bad or the president of our party if it is good.

It is always easier to attack a person than actually read any boring economics--the "Trump is a fascist" and "Let's Go Brandon" approach.

uh huh

 

[Into the Night]

In another thread, we were discussing the way that, on average, the country has had a much better private-sector job creation rate during Democratic presidencies than Republican ones. It got me thinking: is there ANY indicator you can think of where performance hasn't been better, on average, during Democratic presidencies?

Famously, the country has MUCH higher real GDP growth rates when Democrats are president, stronger median real income growth, and better stock market performance. Also, it's well established that while there has been a small net increase in poverty rates during Republican presidencies, there's been a gigantic net decrease in those rates during Democratic presidencies. Dem eras also look better when it comes to the change in the share of Americans covered by health insurance.

But surely there must be SOME indicator that looks better for the Republicans, right?

My first thought was maybe crime, since Republicans talk a good game when it comes to "law and order," and have been eager to incarcerate a large share of Americans to try to achieve that. There are two ways we could score that: average rates or change in rates.

Using the murder rate as a proxy, the average murder rate during Republican presidencies is 7.5 (going back to 1960 and up to 2020). The average during Democratic presidencies is 6.3.

Calculating it, instead, by the change in rates, on average murder rates fell 0.05 points during Democratic presidencies, and rose 0.6 points during Republican presidencies.

So, whichever way you calculate that, Democratic presidential eras look better.

https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_intentional_homicide_rate

The next thought that occurred to me is inflation, since Republicans are hawkish on that. Again, there are two main ways you could score that: the average inflation rate per year, or the change in the rate of inflation from the start of a presidency to the end. The former looks better for the Democrats (3.17%, average, versus 4.16% for Republicans). The latter, though, looks better for Republicans (largely on the strength of Reagan inheriting high rates and leaving fairly low ones).

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FPCPITOTLZGUSA#0

So, out of all the indicators I've thought of, Dems look better on all of them except inflation.... and that one depends on how you score it. Are there any others you can think of that look better for the Republicans?

The government doesn't create jobs (except in government).
The President doesn't create jobs.

Democrats don't want to incarcerate anyone. They want criminals and thugs on the street, including the thugs and criminals they fund and support like Antifa, BLM, and the KKK.

You are making up numbers again. Argument from randU fallacies.

 

[Into the Night]

Republicans have had all day to list one measurable way, and have not been able to do it.

Since neither of you understand or appreciate what capitalism is, or even what market forces are, you cannot see the difference.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The government doesn't create jobs (except in government).
The President doesn't create jobs.

Democrats don't want to incarcerate anyone. They want criminals and thugs on the street, including the thugs and criminals they fund and support like Antifa, BLM, and the KKK.

You are making up numbers again. Argument from randU fallacies.

No shit, Sybil. RQAA. You don't speak for everyone.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Since neither of you understand or appreciate what capitalism is, or even what market forces are, you cannot see the difference.

Bullshit. Mantra 175x

 

[Into the Night]

Can you edit that into standard English?

It is standard English. Too bad you don't understand the language.

 

[Into the Night]

Impeached twice. Led a violent attack on the Capitol.

Lie. Impeached once. Never led any attack on the Capitol. An impeachment is not a conviction. You idiots couldn't even name a crime. The Senate threw your attempts out...twice.

 

[Into the Night]

False.

Your persecution resulted in you idiots getting thrown out of the Senate...twice.
Impeachment is meaningless.

 

[Into the Night]

He did, the evidence is overwhelming.

There isn't any. Your manufactured 'speech' is not evidence. It's propaganda.
Meanwhile, you DO discard the evidence of election fraud by Democrats. That's part of public record. THAT resulted in a faulted election in 2020. You can't make that evidence go away by pointing to 1.6. You can't make the thuggery, arsons, looting, and pillaging of American cities by groups funded and supported by Democrats go away that way either. You can't make attacks on the police on 1.6 by Antifa and BLM thugs go away either.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

In another thread, we were discussing the way that, on average, the country has had a much better private-sector job creation rate during Democratic presidencies than Republican ones. It got me thinking: is there ANY indicator you can think of where performance hasn't been better, on average, during Democratic presidencies?

Republicans have had all day to list one measurable way, and have not been able to do it.

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Sorry to drift off topic, but has anyone here actually visited Sybil's "forum" by clicking his signature?

If you did then has anyone noticed Terri4Trump AKA Terry, a California man in drag, was catfishing Sybil?

https://politiplex.freeforums.net/thread/8/important-biblical-text

 

[Into the Night]

Trump wasn't responsible for those trends, he inherited an economy on the rise,

It wasn't.

majority of economic indicators were pointing in the upward direction before he took office,

They weren't. Inflation isn't profit.

that would have happened coming out of the Great Recession regardless of who was President,

We weren't coming out of the Great Recession. The nation was in a depression. Not as bad as the one we're in now, of course...all caused by Democrats shutting down the economy.

Trump's only accomplishment was not screwing it up

Since you blame Trump for screwing it up, you have locked yourself in paradox. You are being irrational.