Yes, credit where due.
Is there any measurable way the country does better with Republican presidents?
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Yes, credit where due.
One can, of course, do "special pleading" for any era. Like I could say Obama would do even better if the first half of his presidency hadn't been seized up by the aftermath of the financial meltdown, or the Carter era would have been better if not for the oil crisis, etc. So, rather than trying to adjust each era by some gut-level feeling about the scope of the challenges faced, I simply measure each straight and compare.
Things like that work once. Besides paying for them to get back, what else did Congress do to prevent another such stunt?
Our main problem in the US for the past three decades has been an increasingly dysfunctional Congress. They won't talk nor compromise except in rare circumstances. The Russian attack on Ukraine is a surprising example of bipartisan action by Congress. I expect we'll see another bipartisan act after the WSEs murder a bunch of Americans either this summer or the summer of 2024. Let's hope that action puts our nation back onto a more sensible course.
Monad Portal
Was it me?
yes.
WSE?
Matt Dillon
Retardium User
True. Partisan shitheads in the House wasted Americans' time and money and denied their constituents representation with that farce of a circus.
Every one of the Congress involved in the last 3 "impeachments" should have to pay back their salaries for every day there was "impeachment" out of their own pockets.
Also the money they spent on lunch getting catered in for all those days.
White Supremacist Extremists. It's what many far Right JPP members claim to be...if they can only leave their retirement facilities to do something about it. LOL
https://www.dhs.gov/publication/reference-aid-us-violent-white-supremacist-extremists
US Violent White Supremacist Extremists
Violent White Supremacist Extremists (WSE) are defined as individuals who seek, wholly or in part, through unlawful acts of force or violence, to support their belief in the intellectual and moral superiority of the white race over other races. The mere advocacy of political or social positions, political activism, use of strong rhetoric, or generalized philosophic embrace of violent tactics may be constitutionally protected activities.
Monad Portal
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no taxation is not just moving money from one pile to another.
your amoral financial industry way of viewing the world is why central planners are reviled throughout history, and why their regimes always fail.
What makes you think that? It's simply a decision about whether a particular dollar figure goes to one entity (generally a person or corporation) or another entity (typically a government).
Taxes exist in all modern societies, not just one with central economic planning. Even the most libertarian of societies believe there are particular functions that can best be handled by the government, and those need to be funded.
Monad Portal
Was it me?
lol.
no. it's only dems working to destroy the country. they don't believe in the founding, the founding fathers, the constitution, or the concept of what a nation is. in short, it's the globalist retardation syndrome.
what planet are you on, captain dumbass?
Monad Portal
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It's not simply that decision you reference.
The fact you cannot see it is your problem.
you're a central planner totalitarian diseased individual.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
A McNamara fallacy is one where you rely entirely on selected quantification to argue your position
For example, let's say you point out the unemployment rate using the current U-30 model. That is, it is measured by counting how many people are actively looking for a job but don't have one in the last 30 days. You ignore the employment rate being lower than it was say three months ago. That is, there are fewer people working and few people looking for work. That doesn't equate to a better outcome necessarily.
I don't "simply name a fallacy" like some others do. I'm willing and able to explain why I pointed one out, like I'm doing here.
You are making a McNamara fallacy. You have cherry picked a few common statistical measures and proclaimed that Democrat presidents do better. Yet, history records most of those same Democrat presidents did miserably in office, as Biden is doing.
Which is a better measure of how things are going? The U-30 unemployment rate, or the opinion of nearly 80% of Americans that the economy is headed in the wrong direction? I'll take the latter over the former. Thus, even as you tout Biden's low unemployment, Rome is burning and Biden's failing.
Not saying that any of them were perfect, one can find some indicator with any President to draw a different portrayal, but that in terms of the thread, Ike did emulate a sense of leadership during the tense environment of the Cold War, not sure Stevenson could have done the same. By today’s standards, he didn’t progress civil rights, but he didn’t stand as an obstacle, he did send the troops into Little Rock, and it was Ike who upon McCarthy’s attack on the Army sent out the word enough was enough
And as I noted, not a fan of Reagan, but from a Republican perspective, and again, following the theme of the thread, I can see why many would consider him an asset as President
It is a difficult question, none of them measure up to everyone, LBJ is a perfect example, should be a top ranked President on his Civil Rights achievements, but gets negative reviews for Vietnam
Like a typical democrat you are proud of his racism.
ExpressLane
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Carter to Biden is a very long time.