GOP talking point: if you oppose SCOTUS decision, you're against democracy

If 1) a basic tenet of democracy is that when members of society disagree on a given policy that broadly affects the society the majority decides and 2) polls show a solid majority of adult Americans oppose overturning Roe, why isn’t the democratic answer to keep Roe?

Irrelevant question. The United States was not organized as a democracy.
 
You are ignoring an entire history of the document,
History has nothing to do with it. Straw man fallacy.
accepted law by the entire federal and state court system and legal establishment,
They are required to. They have no choice.
a court decision involving the men who wrote the Constitution
No such court decision possible.
that established judicial review,
Not of the Constitution. See Article III.
and the discussion of judicial review in the Federalist Papers.
The Federalist Papers are not the Constitution of the United States.
You also find governmental powers not contained in the Constitution by claiming immigration is included in naturalization
Semantics fallacy. See Article I, $8, the 14th amendment, and various State constitutions.
although there is no text to that effect;
Lie.
therefore, it does not conform to the Constitution.
It does. I have already shown you the relevant sources of authority.
 
See Article I, $8, the 14th amendment, and various State constitutions.

There is no text in Article I or the 14th amendment giving the federal government power to regulate immigration. Nothing is any state constitution can grant powers to the federal government.
 
Because, hey - now the VOTERS get to decide if a woman has rights nor not. Why would anyone be opposed to that? Don't you trust voters to do the right thing?

I've already heard it a half dozen times in the past day. If you oppose overturning a 50+ year old precedent and what has been the law of the land for a generation, you're against democracy. You're against Americans.

They really play us all for fools.

Repukes playing society as a sucker all the time at being the twisted and vile enemy from within at projecting its own un-American acts of seditious hypocrisy and lies at being more like an auto-seditious repuke caucus of high treason:

The 126 Republicans who signed on for 'an act of cynical, unpatriotic, undemocratic hypocrisy'

(CNN)Republicans used to be the party of freedom, the party of President Abraham Lincoln. This week, 126 Republicans in Congress and 18 red state attorneys general decided to repudiate the legacy of Lincoln and freedom by endorsing Texas' ludicrous legal effort to overturn the election results. The good news is that the Supreme Court dismissed the case with no public dissents Friday night. The bad news is that a majority of congressional Republicans chose to support a demagogue over our democracy. It should not be forgotten or forgiven.

These 126 hyper-partisan politicians should now be known as members of the autocrat caucus. From Louisiana Rep. Ralph Abraham to New York Rep. Lee Zeldin, they added their names to this infamous list in a desperate attempt to overturn the election in four swing states won by Joe Biden. They decided to attack democracy itself when the results did not go their way.

Don't be fooled by whatever ornate excuses they make. This was not an attempt to find new evidence or even more absurdly "defend the constitution". It was objectively the opposite."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/13/opin...ynical-unpatriotic-hypocrisy-avlon/index.html

More on the tantalizing atrocity of repuke hypocrisy who are so seditiously deplorable they would rather project their toxic atrocities on others, and for following reasons:

SILENT: GOP ignores right-wing Supreme Court leak after bitter complaints over leaked opinion

Republican Party leaders are furious that a Supreme Court leak exposed their partisan Justices’ plans to obliterate women’s rights, yet, they’re ignoring three conservatives leaking today from that very same court just days later.

The reason for this new, even more toxic brand of GOP hypocrisy is that, like the dog who catches the car, they don’t know what to do now that — thanks to the Supreme Court —their unpopular minority political agenda is about to be thrust upon 100% of Americans, most of whom resent their big government dictates.

Despite decades of anti-abortion rhetoric and theocratic demagoguery against a women’s right to choose, most Republican lawmakers have been mainly clutching their pearls about the leak of Justice Alito’s draft opinion rather than cheering the substance of the document itself.

Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) is the architect of today’s far-right extremist majority on the Supreme Court and went so far as to call the leaked opinion overturning Roe vs. Wade “an attack.”

https://occupydemocrats.com/2022/05...P7lkDx4FNjO5aI-9Z57SSlC8nBUDu0Fp0a-CyAn81e0Xk
 
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There is no text in Article I or the 14th amendment giving the federal government power to regulate immigration. Nothing is any state constitution can grant powers to the federal government.

He has a habit of making arguments by reference to things without a word as to how the reference supports his argument.
 
You can always tell a desperate argument by their sources. But let's assume the guardian is telling the truth, the citizens of that state, if they disagree with such laws, can vote them out and get new laws right? We call that democracy. Something you DON'T get when lawyers in black robes infer rights where none exist.


OR, something the leftists will ignore or not understand, when those black robed tyrants put limitations on expressly stated rights when it's very clear by the text that they have no power to do so...........
 
Because, hey - now the VOTERS get to decide if a woman has rights nor not. Why would anyone be opposed to that? Don't you trust voters to do the right thing?

I've already heard it a half dozen times in the past day. If you oppose overturning a 50+ year old precedent and what has been the law of the land for a generation, you're against democracy. You're against Americans.

They really play us all for fools.

Actually the GOP talking point is to spew out tRump gutter inspired threats against America, society and anything else of a civilized nature on Earth at being in the whore bed of the stench and trash with the devil while living it up on the down low on the taxpayer money.
 
They must determine what the Constitution means before they can conform to it. That is essentially interpreting its meaning--etymological fallacy.
SCOTUS did not write the Constitution, nor are they the final arbiter of what it means.

If they overturn Roe they interpreted the Constitution to what they thought conformed to the meaning of the text. Different justices might find that didn't conform to the meaning.
the above is exactly why they are not the final arbiter of the Constitution
 
If 1) a basic tenet of democracy is that when members of society disagree on a given policy that broadly affects the society the majority decides and 2) polls show a solid majority of adult Americans oppose overturning Roe, why isn’t the democratic answer to keep Roe?

the powers of the federal government are FEW AND DEFINED!!!!!!!!!!

so show us the text in the Constitution that spells out abortion or medical privacy
 
He has a habit of making arguments by reference to things without a word as to how the reference supports his argument.
If you would actually read those sections, then you would see how they DO support his arguments. If you have trouble understanding how, you can always ask questions.
 
There is no text in Article I or the 14th amendment giving the federal government power to regulate immigration.
Yes, there is.

Article 1, Section 8: "The Congress shall have Power ... ... To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization"
14th Amendment: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. ... ... The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article."
 
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Maybe next we can "let the states decide" whether a woman can vote or hold a job, or whether she can be seen in public without a man at her side, or whether she can wear jeans.

What a tired, pathetic and stupid statement. Try to be less of a moron if that is even possible. :palm:
 
If 1) a basic tenet of democracy is that when members of society disagree on a given policy that broadly affects the society the majority decides and 2) polls show a solid majority of adult Americans oppose overturning Roe, why isn’t the democratic answer to keep Roe?

Because Roe wasn't decided democratically. It was flawed jurisprudence by men in black robes. Try to be smarter. :palm:
 
You are ignoring an entire history of the document, accepted law by the entire federal and state court system and legal establishment, a court decision involving the men who wrote the Constitution that established judicial review, and the discussion of judicial review in the Federalist Papers.

STRAWMAN ALERT!

You also find governmental powers not contained in the Constitution by claiming immigration is included in naturalization although there is no text to that effect; therefore, it does not conform to the Constitution.

Article IV, Section 4

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature can-not be convened) against domestic Violence.


:eyeroll:
 
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