Learn how to shoot and one round is all you need. Math 101.
Army Picks Its Replacement for the M4 and SAW
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Learn how to shoot and one round is all you need. Math 101.
An adult would realize that killing someone tends to be a chaotic situation, which shooting at the firing range will not train you for. The greatest unreliability is not the gun, but the shooting.
But once again, I am not debating an adult in anything but in strictly number of years.
How do you think soldiers are trained?
Maybe you can share your expertise when it comes to firearms training, I've only had over 20 years teaching firearms safety and marksmanship.
Soldiers start out with paper targets on a range, and then they go on to try to get the most realistic training they can. That being said, they are not really fully trained until they have been blooded.
Even then, they will try to get a huge amount of bullets in the air. The most unreliable part of the whole equation is aim, and bullets are cheaper than soldiers. That is why most military small arms are automatic, and revolvers are rare indeed.
And yet you are a camp ground night watchman for gas money?
signalmankenneth
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Text Drivers are Killers
Joe Biden - "Time to put Trump in the bullseye."
That's at the gun range where the shooter has a good solid grip on the gun. In an actual gun fight people panic and don't get a good grip and the action doesn't cycle and you get a jam. Gun fight jams with an auto are very common. 1 in 5000? HAHAHA
Beauty does not make it a beast...
Text Drivers are Killers
Joe Biden - "Time to put Trump in the bullseye."
If you want cool, give the soldiers the model 1894 winchester 30-30 lever-action carbine. Coolest looking rifle of all time and kind of an assault rifle too. Put modern sights on it though.
Matt Dillon
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Says the motherfucker that has never hit a bullseye.
And definitely not a rabbit on a full run right in the head over 75% of the time.
That's great if you aren't shooting past 75 yards consistently.
Text Drivers are Killers
Joe Biden - "Time to put Trump in the bullseye."
50 million dead deer just called you an idiot.
Lightbringer
Loves Me Some Souls
Shut it tranny fucker.
Part of the problem the Russians are having is they think like you, and want to use old tech. It is a failure of the old and conservative.
Are you one of those veggie freaks?
Text Drivers are Killers
Joe Biden - "Time to put Trump in the bullseye."
You are moron if you think the lever action carbine is a bad choice for war or hunting deer .
Matt Dillon
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I take deer at under 25 yards. True Story. With no 30-30.
Text Drivers are Killers
Joe Biden - "Time to put Trump in the bullseye."
You shooting mulies out west? They are much tamer than the whitetails we have back east even though the two types of deer are physically very similar. To get within 25 yards of a mulie is easy. Maybe 5 years ago i came across a yearling mulie just a few yards off the trail . I could probably have touched it. This was in the mountains not in a city.
cops are not known to be good at accuracy. its expensive to get good.
of course now that crime is ramping way up in NYC they should probably reconsider that budget.
This is unfortunately true, especially in the cities where there aren't many gun ranges.
Expensive? They are allotted ammo for practice and qualifying (at least they used to be).
My cousin is a retired Phila. cop, he would practice at our range when he came back to visit
and is a good shot. He fired his weapon one time in the 20+ years he was a cop, and that
bullet killed an armed suspect. He was well aware of his surroundings, no one else was compromised.
I would think his military training also contributed to his awareness and accuracy when he fired.
Yes, crime has risen considerably since all the BLM protests and the hatred of law enforcement
promoted by the leftists and the "defund the police" budgets. Stupid is as stupid does...
Lightbringer
Loves Me Some Souls
So long M16/M4, it's about time too! Going with a new caliber too, more hard hitting?!! This will be the armies first foreign made since, the Krag-Jorgensen?!! Also looks like the end of the bayonet too?!!
[FONT=&]The Army has found its replacements for the M4 rifle and M249 Squad Automatic Weapon, handing out a contract to put new guns in the hands of tens of thousands of soldiers.
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[FONT=&]The force is awarding a 10-year, $20.4 million contract to Sig Sauer for the XM5 Rifle, which will become the new standard rifle for soldiers, and the XM250 Automatic Rifle, which will replace the SAW.
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[FONT=&]The service will also switch from 5.56mm ammo to 6.8mm, after a search for rounds better built to penetrate body armor.
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[FONT=&]"Both weapons fire common 6.8 millimeter ammunition utilizing government provided projectiles and vendor-designed cartridges," an Army spokesperson said in a press release. "The new ammunition includes multiple types of tactical and training rounds that increase accuracy and are more lethal against emerging threats than both the 5.56mm and 7.62mm ammunition."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/army-picks-replacement-m4-saw-230105091.html
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If they were smart they'd just go with 7.62mm