Telling kids it’s ok if they are gay….

The Parental Rights Education Bill has not a thing to do with suppressing or shaming children. Any student can talk to teachers, counselors, administrators, or other school personnel if they have problems or personal concerns...
It is the parent's responsibility...not the school's.. to teach their children gender identity and sexual orientation... but they have every opportunity to reach out to the school they feel they need help/resources...
There is no intent...or wording... in the bill that disrespects or attacks the LQBTQI community...
Let teachers do their job...Parents, do yours...and communicate and collaborate...everyone wants what is best for the children...
 
TOP said:
The Parental Rights Education Bill has not a thing to do with suppressing or shaming children. Any student can talk to teachers, counselors, administrators, or other school personnel if they have problems or personal concerns...
It is the parent's responsibility...not the school's.. to teach their children gender identity and sexual orientation... but they have every opportunity to reach out to the school they feel they need help/resources...
There is no intent...or wording... in the bill that disrespects or attacks the LQBTQI community...
Let teachers do their job...Parents, do yours...and communicate and collaborate...everyone wants what is best for the children...
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Yes exactly, but the likes of Madwitch want to indoctrinate kids. When you think about it, what's the difference between that and the Jesuits who used to say give me the child to the age of seven and we'll give you the man.
 
Primavera said:
Yes exactly, but the likes of Madwitch want to indoctrinate kids. When you think about it, what's the difference between that and the Jesuits who used to say give me the child to the age of seven and we'll give you the man.
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How would it be any different at all?
Perhaps they will let us know...with examples and illustrations, of course...;)
 
Teachers in Florida are very concerned.

"It makes me wonder," she says, "when I talk about families in my classroom, am I going to be violating this law because the children were having discussions about what their family looks like?"

The law's sponsors say that's not the intent. But Stephens fears the law's language is so vague that it will have a chilling effect, and she worries about what other topics might become a target.
"What's next?" she asks. "If they're going after this conversation now, where does this stop? ... I'm very fearful that this law is going to just open it up for a lot more things to start being discriminated against."
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/30/1089...effect-of-floridas-so-called-dont-say-gay-law

 
Dutch Uncle said:
As long as it fits their Noah's Ark-style, white supremacist narrative, they are okay with it.
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Exactly. All you have to do is look at the frantic and angry posts in this thread from the Reichwingers to see that. Imagine being okay with enshrining hate and fear into law.
 
TOP said:
Teachers need not worry....what would be the problem?
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You truly are that stupid. Really, Toxic? Aren't you the one who informed us a while back that "kids make up stories to get revenge"? Now they don't have to.

Little Jade can go home and tell his dad that they learned about jobs at school, and his best friend Liam's dads are a fireman and a store manager. If Jade's dad is a homophobe like yourself, he'll be at that school the next day demanding that Ms. Kindly be fired.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I was exploring the veracity of his claim. You produced a data point, he didn't. :)
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Kids ask questions about where babies come from, why are those two animals doing that, etc. at different ages. I guess it depends on how observant they are. Years ago I took my two oldest kids to a baseball game at Busch stadium. I think that they were four and seven at the time. Two older men were sitting directly in front of us. My son, the seven year old, paid no attention when one of them put his arm around the other and started rubbing his neck. But my daughter spied it right away and looked at me with a question in her eyes. I just put a finger up to my lips in a shhh gesture. After the game she asked why "those two grandpas" were doing that. Just said that they love each other and that's what ppl do when they love someone. Sufficed, I suppose, since she didn't ask anything else.

Now imagine if that had happened on a class field trip and the teacher had explained it the same way?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Kids ask questions about where babies come from, why are those two animals doing that, etc. at different ages. I guess it depends on how observant they are. Years ago I took my two oldest kids to a baseball game at Busch stadium. I think that they were four and seven at the time. Two older men were sitting directly in front of us. My son, the seven year old, paid no attention when one of them put his arm around the other and started rubbing his neck. But my daughter spied it right away and looked at me with a question in her eyes. I just put a finger up to my lips in a shhh gesture. After the game she asked why "those two grandpas" were doing that. Just said that they love each other and that's what ppl do when they love someone. Sufficed, I suppose, since she didn't ask anything else.

Now imagine if that had happened on a class field trip and the teacher had explained it the same way?
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Kids are curious. That curiosity has to be beat out of them and the results are most of the RWNJs on JPP. LOL

If parents don't provide satisfactory answers, given the kid would ask them in the first place, then kids will seek answers elsewhere. IMO, school is the best place. Sunday school can teach them morality, but public school will give them facts.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Kids ask questions about where babies come from, why are those two animals doing that, etc. at different ages. I guess it depends on how observant they are. Years ago I took my two oldest kids to a baseball game at Busch stadium. I think that they were four and seven at the time. Two older men were sitting directly in front of us. My son, the seven year old, paid no attention when one of them put his arm around the other and started rubbing his neck. But my daughter spied it right away and looked at me with a question in her eyes. I just put a finger up to my lips in a shhh gesture. After the game she asked why "those two grandpas" were doing that. Just said that they love each other and that's what ppl do when they love someone. Sufficed, I suppose, since she didn't ask anything else.

Now imagine if that had happened on a class field trip and the teacher had explained it the same way?
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Exactly, I told my son the dogs were mating, it’s how they made puppies, he was more excited by the idea of puppies then the original subject.
 
Phantasmal said:
Exactly, I told my son the dogs were mating, it’s how they made puppies, he was more excited by the idea of puppies then the original subject.
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You know what's interesting about this latest RW poutrage? They are the same ppl who decry abortions and want to make them illegal. So how does refusing to allow instruction regarding sex ed/gender issues/etc. -- in age-appropriate ways -- further that? Seems to me if you make discussion regarding human sexuality taboo, you're going to end up with MORE unwanted pregnancies, eh?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
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You know what's interesting about this latest RW poutrage? They are the same ppl who decry abortions and want to make them illegal. So how does refusing to allow instruction regarding sex ed/gender issues/etc. -- in age-appropriate ways -- further that? Seems to me if you make discussion regarding human sexuality taboo, you're going to end up with MORE unwanted pregnancies, eh?
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I find most of what they do perplexing. They also claim to support children to prevent suicide and/or drug use, taking away a child’s safe space, which school is for some children, it guarantees increases in both.
 
The Parental Rights Education Bill has not a thing to do with suppressing or shaming children. Any student can talk to teachers, counselors, administrators, or other school personnel if they have problems or personal concerns...
It is the parent's responsibility...not the school's.. to teach their children gender identity and sexual orientation... but they have every opportunity to reach out to the school they feel they need help/resources...
There is no intent...or wording... in the bill that disrespects or attacks the LQBTQI community...
Let teachers do their job...Parents, do yours...and communicate and collaborate...everyone wants what is best for the children...
 
Phantasmal said:
I find most of what they do perplexing. They also claim to support children to prevent suicide and/or drug use, taking away a child’s safe space, which school is for some children, it guarantees increases in both.
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That's a great point. Mocking people, esp. young ones, for wanting a safe zone is a good way to make sure that they feel hopeless and lonely enough to kill themselves.
 
Knowledge is better than ignorance, every time.

Why do people keep using the word "indoctrination?" Do they know what that word means?

Making kids aware of reality does not = indoctrination.
 
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