How far do we go to defend Ukraine?

[BartenderElite]

spoken like a true neocon. You have gone full Bolton

Some things are worth fighting for. Not every conflict is Korea or Vietnam.

This is a fight for the future of the planet.

 

[Jack]

spoken like a true neocon. You have gone full Bolton

You get to pick a side. Free Speech ... Gulag.

 

[Jack]

You know why, or you should.

Translation: 'I don't know why either'.

 

[BartenderElite]

we already "did" more then enough to set up a predicate for this war
NATO expansion
meddling in the Euromaidan
encouraging Ukraine to tilt all west
ubermilitarizing Ukraine, and refusing to negotiate Russian security/"red lines"

and for those that cant keep 2 idea in their head at the same time that doesn't absolve Putin.
But it shows the west's ( especially the US) "bad karma/intentions" cant simply be dismissed as well

Putin had no choice! But I'm not making excuses for Putin.

Okey dokey.

 

[anatta]

EVERYTHING. Why is Russia invading Ukraine???

GTFO.
I gave you the predicates. you cut them off on your reply,and then pose an illiterate question
Learn to carry on a linear discussion

 

[Legion]

Translation: 'I don't know why either'.

You even posted in the thread.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?185779-Why-Putin-is-taking-Ukraine-by-Putin

 

[anatta]

Putin had no choice! But I'm not making excuses for Putin.

Okey dokey.

another idiot.
Where did I say "Putin had no choice"

 

[Legion]

GTFO. I gave you the predicates. you cut them off on your reply,and then pose an illiterate question
Learn to carry on a linear discussion

Jack is a troll. He belongs in the TOP tribute thread.

 

[Legion]

another idiot. Where did I say "Putin had no choice"

You didn't.

 

[BartenderElite]

another idiot.
Where did I say "Putin had no choice"

In the post that I referenced. When you made a list of excuses for his criminal action.

 

[Jack]

GTFO.
I gave you the predicates. you cut them off on your reply,and then pose an illiterate question
Learn to carry on a linear discussion

You're delusional. Europe wants Russia in the Family of Nations. Putin ... wants to be a 'Czar of the Slavs'.

 

[anatta]

Jack is a troll. He belongs in the TOP tribute thread.

he has his moments of decent discussions. He's good on China but he has a habit of willful ignorance as well

 

[Nordberg]

The war drums are from both sides of the aisle

Like who? The fact is most of us fear nukes and WW3. The politicians do too.is this more right-wing "somebody somewhere' shit?

 

[anatta]

You're delusional. Europe wants Russia in the Family of Nations. Putin ... wants to be a 'Czar of the Slavs'.

NATO expansion belies your "Family of Nations" WTF that is supposed to be

 

[Jack]

he has his moments of decent discussions. He's good on China but he has a habit of willful ignorance as well

Funny coming from the Russian Propaganda Agent.

 

[Legion]

he has his moments of decent discussions. He's good on China but he has a habit of willful ignorance as well

He's a troll.

 

[Jack]

NATO expansion belies your "Family of Nations" WTF that is supposed to be

The UN Members agree to respect present Borders. Putin seems to think this doesn't apply to him.

 

[anatta]

Like who? The fact is most of us fear nukes and WW3. The politicians do too.is this more right-wing "somebody somewhere' shit?

granted the Republicans have some Cracker Jack nutcases like Lindsey Graham
( who invoked the ghost of John Mccain yesterday)

But I dont hear anyone talking about a path to peace, or the need for mediated talks.
it's all wardrums all the time

 

[Legion]

The UN Members agree.

How's that working out so far?

 

[anatta]

Funny coming from the Russian Propaganda Agent.