Saint Kyle!

[Moosakofsky]

No, I asked you a simple question. Do you believe that Rittenhouse would be dead if he didn't have his gun? Yes or no?

No.
My turn.
Did Kyle (or anyone else) carrying a rifle justify Rosenbaum trying to take it from him so Rosenbaum could kill Kyle, as he so stated to a witness beforehand?
Was Kyle reasonable to believe his life would be in danger had he allowed Rosenbaum to take his weapon from him after Rosenbaum ambushed, chased, then cornered Rittenhouse, as seen on multiple videos?
Was Kyle reasonable to run toward the police for protection after one of the mob yelled, "get him"?
Was a lynch mob justified in chasing Kyle down only because he had no choice but to defend himself from an assailant?

 

[Concart]

No.
My turn.
Did Kyle (or anyone else) carrying a rifle justify Rosenbaum trying to take it from him so Rosenbaum could kill Kyle, as he so stated to a witness beforehand?
Was Kyle reasonable to believe his life would be in danger had he allowed Rosenbaum to take his weapon from him?
Was a lynch mob justified in chasing Kyle down only because he had no choice but to defend himself from an assailant?

So, Rittenhouse, by his provocative actions, prompted a response that you and yours claim necessitated a self defense response. And then running like a coward and lying about what he'd just done. Do I have that right? You must be so proud of your little Angel.

 

[Concart]

By hounding him as they did Zimmerman.

Zimmerman was guilty as sin. But that's a topic for another day.

No one on 'the left' is even talking about Rittenhouse. No one.

 

[Moosakofsky]

So, Rittenhouse, by his provocative actions,

If you saw someone walking around with a rifle in a riot would you be provoked to ambush that person, chase him into a corner and attempt to take that rifle from him for the purpose of killing him?

prompted a response that you and yours claim necessitated a self defense response.

By 'yours' do you mean the jury?

And then running like a coward and lying about what he'd just done. Do I have that right?

You better believe it. You'd be pretty stupid (not brave) to allow a crazed lunatic take your weapon from you.

You must be so proud of your little Angel.

He's a little punk the leftists turned into a hero for some. I don't consider him a hero at all. But even stupid little punks that do stupid things and have no business walking around with a weapon have the inalienable right to self defense.
But I understand that the far left, the woke, communists, rioters, violent criminals , et al don't believe someone that's not one of their own do not have that right.
The jury did not agree with your kind. We all have that right.

 

[Concart]

If you saw someone walking around with a rifle in a riot would you be provoked to ambush that person, chase him into a corner and attempt to take that rifle from him for the purpose of killing him? By 'yours' do you mean the jury? You better believe it. You'd be pretty stupid (not brave) to allow a crazed lunatic take your weapon from you. He's a little punk the leftists turned into a hero for some. I don't consider him a hero at all. But even stupid little punks that do stupid things and have no business walking around with a weapon have the inalienable right to self defense.
But I understand that the far left, the woke, communists, rioters, violent criminals , et al don't believe someone that's not one of their own do not have that right.
The jury did not agree with your kind. We all have that right.

You know the purpose was killing him? How did you get that information? Are you Rosenbaum's dentist?

Not guilty does not equal innocent. Remember OJ?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Zimmerman was guilty as sin. But that's a topic for another day.

No one on 'the left' is even talking about Rittenhouse. No one.

Guilty of shooting Martin in the chest with his own back to the ground? Yes. Guilty for being part of the problem not part of the solution? Yes. So guilty in the minds of the LEFT that they will hound him to his grave? Yes.

Kyle and Zimmerman have a lot in common. The situations themselves have a lot in common.

Bottom line; never go looking for trouble and, if there's trouble, leave and let the police handle it, be prepared to defend yourself if necessary.

None of the fucking morons in either situation followed that advice except the last one. Now the survivors will pay for that indiscretion and the dead paid for it with their lives.

 

[Concart]

Guilty of shooting Martin in the chest with his own back to the ground? Yes. Guilty for being part of the problem not part of the solution? Yes. So guilty in the minds of the LEFT that they will hound him to his grave? Yes.

Kyle and Zimmerman have a lot in common. The situations themselves have a lot in common.

Bottom line; defend yourself when necessary, never go looking for trouble and, if there's trouble, leave and let the police handle it.

None of the fucking morons in either situation followed that advice.

I disagree. Rittenhouse was a stupid, scared punk kid along with being a cop wannabe. Zimmerman was not a kid. He knew exactly what he was doing. Slowly pursuing 'the suspicious black kid' in his car, and when the black kid ran, getting out and chasing him. No comparison at all.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You know the purpose was killing him? How did you get that information? Are you Rosenbaum's dentist?

Not guilty does not equal innocent. Remember OJ?

The Alt-Right also conveniently forgets due process when it suits them.

 

[Concart]

The Alt-Right also conveniently forgets due process when it suits them.

Yep. What chafes me is the defense of Rittenhouse (see this thread title) and the demonization of especially the last two people who were shot.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I disagree. Rittenhouse was a stupid, scared punk kid along with being a cop wannabe. Zimmerman was not a kid. He knew exactly what he was doing. Slowly pursuing 'the suspicious black kid' in his car, and when the black kid ran, getting out and chasing him. No comparison at all.

Zimmerman's IQ was below average. Yes, he was older but he was still an idiot. Disagreed that Zimmermann could find his fat ass with both hands. He was too stupid to be a cop.

Where does it say Zimmerman chased Martin in his car? Is this the same source that claimed he had his gun and and chased Martin down to shoot him?

 

[Moosakofsky]

You know the purpose was killing him? How did you get that information?

It came out in the trial:
From Ryan Balch - Rosenbaum got angry, shouting, “If I catch any of you guys alone tonight I’m going to f—- kill you!” Balch said that Rittenhouse was within earshot and that he believed the threat was aimed at both of them.

Not guilty does not equal innocent. Remember OJ?

Oh, OJ killed his wife in self defense now? (I can relate.)
So you consider all verdicts to be wrong? Most? Maybe you'd like to do away with our legal system.
Let's see. All video evidence supported self defense, the prosecution witnesses corroborated self defense, the hapless D.A. lied in his opening arguments in addition to not understanding basic law , and the jury , after seeing and hearing all the evidence came to a unanimous decision and yet you and yours still come to the conclusion the jury got it wrong. Amazing.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Yep. What chafes me is the defense of Rittenhouse (see this thread title) and the demonization of especially the last two people who were shot.

Some are doing that just to be trolls; designed to irritate just like calling Pedo Don a pedophile (it's true! Donald Trump fucked underage females!).

Even so, the laws rule and the law ruled Kyle had a right to defend himself from lethal attack.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Deposed from what? He doesn't hold any office.

You should stick to claiming posts violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics. At least that confuses some readers so they think you might be intelligent.

Definition of depose

transitive verb
1 : to remove from a throne or other high position plotting to depose the king a deposed military leader
2 : to put down : deposit deposing the sacrament in a carved recess— Francis Berry
3 to testify to under oath or by affidavit

Depends. See various State laws. This is not a yes/no question.

Since it depends that means it is a question of opinion and so Rittenhouse loses the suit since he has to prove the statement was false.

No. Why does this question relate to anything that Kyle has done or is doing?

It has everything to do with someone calling him a murderer. If he has killed anyone then he could be called a murderer as a matter of opinion since you have already said that it depends.

So? If the defense is reduced to this, they've already lost.

One of the 3 requirements for a defamation lawsuit is the plaintiff has to show financial harm. That means their finances can be questioned by the defense in order to show they have suffered no financial harm.

 

[Moosakofsky]

The Alt-Right also conveniently forgets due process when it suits them.

What due process did the Alt-Right forget?
Kyle got his trial. What else did the Far Left, the Woke, Communist and Marxists, rioters, antifa, BLM, criminals and D.A.'s that openly side with criminals want?

 

[Life is Golden]

Are you denying Kyle was wandering the streets alone at night with his rifle?

I'm all for self-defense. A sniper on top of a rooftop could have legally picked off Kyle with a shot in the chest/back after he fired his first shot.

If more Americans would stand together against the domestic terrorists, less idiots would be terrorizing Americans at night.

The domestic terrorists are the criminals breaking out store fronts, looting and destroying businesses.

Owners have a right to protect their interests whether you like it or not. Kyle was helping out and never fired a shot until attacked by the lynch mob.

Fuck the mob. I hate them and love when someone beats them at their own fascist game.

 

[Life is Golden]

No. Where did I say that? I didn’t. Yes. YOU said it. Apparently you believe the act of carrying a weapon into a riot justifies a rioter (or anyone else?) to forcefully take that weapon and use it against the non rioter. That’s some pretty twisted belief.
My claim is that had Kyle allowed Rosenbaum to take his weapon he was reasonable to believe Rosenbaum woul use it against him and he had no choice but to defend himself.
Anyway it’s a moot point. The jury agreed with me. I’m right , you’re wrong, there were no good guys here but the criminals lost this one. Oh wait. They didn’t . They were never prosecuted. A win win for everybody. Let it go.

Spot on, Doc. Nailed it again.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Yet you have nothing to disprove it. Figures.

the video of the shootings speak for themselves. your blue colored glasses are telling you wrong.

Self-defense taking down a terrorist shooter. Are you saying if a BLM/Antifa terrorist was shooting people in the parking lot I couldn't legally pick him off with a sniper shot? You only think black people and Lefties can be shot. Not aggressor terrorists in general.

I sincerely hope you do that someday and then go tell the police PROUDLY what you did............let us know how it works out for you

 

[Dutch Uncle]

What due process did the Alt-Right forget?
Kyle got his trial. What else did the Far Left, the Woke, Communist and Marxists, rioters, antifa, BLM, criminals and D.A.'s that openly side with criminals want?

George Floyd's for starters. That's what kicked off this particular fiasco in Kenosha. It was in all the papers.

Thanks for the conspiracy theory laugh. Yup, that's exactly what the Qanon/Trumpettes/Aryan Assholes/White Supremacists militias beleive.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The domestic terrorists are the criminals breaking out store fronts, looting and destroying businesses.

Owners have a right to protect their interests whether you like it or not. Kyle was helping out and never fired a shot until attacked by the lynch mob.

Fuck the mob. I hate them and love when someone beats them at their own fascist game.

Breaking a window doesn't warrant the death penalty in any US state. Maybe in Mother Russia. Is that what they do there, LiG?

Why not let the city and state police handle it? Why not video record the criminals and turn the evidence over to them? Why was a 17 year old kid abandoned on the streets by his "friends" and dumped into the situation you described? Was it to create a reverse George Floyd? Were militia members, dressed as Antifa, recording this hoping to see Kyle murdered on the streets by thugs?

I have a right to shoot dead anyone attacking an innocent whether you like it or not. I can shoot them in the fucking head, the middle of their back or just shoot them in the L3 Lumber with a pussy-assed round like a 5.56mm and watch them shit in a bag from a wheelchair for the rest of their lives without having their death on my hands. Nobody gives a shit about cripples.

Kyle was duped and dumped in the middle of a hostile area away from the main party as bait. When that is revealed, he'll garner sympathy even from the Left. There's a difference between some asshole out hunting Americans to slaughter and a dumbass kid led into a dangerous situation by lying adults.

Exactly. FUCK THE MOB. Next time, more sniper fire to shoot the terrorist leaders.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

the video of the shootings speak for themselves. your blue colored glasses are telling you wrong.

I sincerely hope you do that someday and then go tell the police PROUDLY what you did............let us know how it works out for you

Agreed, just like the videos of the Insurrection. Why bother even having a trial? I knew you were a cop-hater. Don't like the Thin Blue Line, do ya Mr. "I'm not a terrorist supporter even though I support the violent overthrow of the US government"? LOL

The line I will always remember about 1/6 is an Insurrectionist screaming "I'm doing this for you!!!" as he's violently beating a DCPD officer...the boys in Blue you hate so much, Mr. "I'm not a terrorist supporter but support violence against innocent Americans as collateral damage".

YOU:

MOST AMERICANS: