Spain shows the way on green hydrogen

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The Hydrogen Economy is finally a reality, not just in Spain but Australia and even Namibia are becoming real powerhouses for green hydrogen. This is a proper use for renewables producing electricity for electrolysis not hooked up to power grids and causing huge instability in the process.

7.4 GW green hydrogen facility launches in Spain, initial part of 67GW project that aims to bring price down to fossil-fuel levels


Beginning manufacturing in 2025, the HyDeal España hub is the initial industrial execution of the HyDeal Ambition platform, a European consortium which aims to bring the expense of green hydrogen down to fossil-fuel levels.

It prepares to do so by means of a platform with 67GW of electrolysis capacity, powered from 95GW of solar, in what the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA) has ranked as the biggest green hydrogen programme worldwide.

The hydrogen created at the HyDeal España hub already has assured offtakers, with steel maker ArcelorMittal and fertiliser manufacturer Fertiberia backing the project in addition to Spanish gas firm Enagas and also green hydrogen programmer DH2 Power.

HyDeal España was formally incorporated as a commercial joint venture (JV) in November 2021 following an one-year prefeasibility research as well as will certainly provide green hydrogen to a commercial complicated in Asturias, Northern Spain.

ArcelorMittal and Grupo Fertiberia-- "together with other huge hydrogen clients set to join the project"-- strategy to purchase 6.6 million tonnes of eco-friendly hydrogen over two decades to produce steel, ammonia, fertilizers and other industrial as well as energy products.

" HyDeal España is the first concrete application of the 1.5 EUR/kg green hydrogen system revealed in February 2021," claimed Thierry Lepercq, chairman of the JV and speaker for HyDeal Ambition.

Lepercq claimed green hydrogen was "now a full-fledged commodity, able to compete with coal, oil and gas in both costs and volumes".

José Manuel Arias, chairman ArcelorMittal Spain, stated the project "will be able to offer a supply, in competitive problems, of hydrogen gotten using renewable energy sources, which will be essential to enabling us to achieve our 50% carbon dioxide exhausts reduction target in our Spanish operations by 2030."

Enagás' CEO Marcelino Oreja stated the company currently takes part in more than 30 hydrogen-related projects throughout Spain which "HyDeal Españan is one of the most vital".

This year could be a tipping point for Europe's green hydrogen market, with a flurry of tasks predicted if the needed policy setting is attained, according to research study and also consulting firm Delta-EE.

https://www.pv-tech.org/7-4gw-green...ims-to-bring-cost-down-to-fossil-fuel-levels/
 
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Primavera said:
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The Hydrogen Economy is finally a reality, not just inSpain but Australia and even Namibia are becoming real powerhouses for green hydrogen. This is a proper use for renewables producing electricity for electrolysis not hooked up to power grids and causing huge instability in the process.

7.4 GW green hydrogen facility launches in Spain, initial part of 67GW project that aims to bring price down to fossil-fuel levels


Beginning manufacturing in 2025, the HyDeal España hub is the initial industrial execution of the HyDeal Ambition platform, a European consortium which aims to bring the expense of green hydrogen down to fossil-fuel levels.

It prepares to do so by means of a platform with 67GW of electrolysis capacity, powered from 95GW of solar, in what the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA) has ranked as the biggest green hydrogen programme worldwide.

The hydrogen created at the HyDeal España hub already has assured offtakers, with steel maker ArcelorMittal and fertiliser manufacturer Fertiberia backing the project in addition to Spanish gas firm Enagas and also green hydrogen programmer DH2 Power.

HyDeal España was formally incorporated as a commercial joint venture (JV) in November 2021 following an one-year prefeasibility research as well as will certainly provide green hydrogen to a commercial complicated in Asturias, Northern Spain.

ArcelorMittal and Grupo Fertiberia-- "together with other huge hydrogen clients set to join the project"-- strategy to purchase 6.6 million tonnes of eco-friendly hydrogen over two decades to produce steel, ammonia, fertilizers and other industrial as well as energy products.

" HyDeal España is the first concrete application of the 1.5 EUR/kg green hydrogen system revealed in February 2021," claimed Thierry Lepercq, chairman of the JV and speaker for HyDeal Ambition.

Lepercq claimed green hydrogen was "now a full-fledged commodity, able to compete with coal, oil and gas in both costs and volumes".

José Manuel Arias, chairman ArcelorMittal Spain, stated the project "will be able to offer a supply, in competitive problems, of hydrogen gotten using renewable energy sources, which will be essential to enabling us to achieve our 50% carbon dioxide exhausts reduction target in our Spanish operations by 2030."

Enagás' CEO Marcelino Oreja stated the company currently takes part in more than 30 hydrogen-related projects throughout Spain which "HyDeal Españan is one of the most vital".

This year could be a tipping point for Europe's green hydrogen market, with a flurry of tasks predicted if the needed policy setting is attained, according to research study and also consulting firm Delta-EE.

https://www.pv-tech.org/7-4gw-green...ims-to-bring-cost-down-to-fossil-fuel-levels/
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Price controls do not work. Government subsidized projects like this is nothing more than communism.
Solar is the most expensive method of producing electrical power, watt for watt.

While hydrogen powered cars certainly exist today, fueling them is a pain in the neck. The freezing of the fuel nozzle is still a problem. Compressing hydrogen to those pressures and maintaining them there requires additional energy.
 
This is a truly amazing development, which only the Japanese appear able to pull off.

Yamaha's 450-HP Hydrogen V8 Could Save Internal Combustion
FEB 18, 2022

And it's already lined up for use by Toyota!

From motorcycles to snowmobiles, Yamaha's engineering expertise knows no bounds. The Japanese brand has previously teamed up with carmakers, famously helping Volvo shoehorn a V8 into early S80 and XC90 models. But when it comes to automotive partnerships, Yamaha and Toyota have done some truly incredible work together, from the magnificent V10-powered LFA to the current Lexus IS 500 V8.

But Toyota has contracted Yamaha yet again, this time to create a hydrogen-powered V8 engine. Based on the 5.0-liter engine found in the RC F, modifications have been made to the cylinder heads, intake manifold, injectors, and several other components. Running on hydrogen, it produces 450-horsepower at 6,800 rpm and 398 lb-ft of torque at 3,600 rpm.

Read more:
https://carbuzz.com/news/yamahas-450-hp-hydrogen-v8-could-save-internal-combustion
 
Into the Night said:
Price controls do not work. Government subsidized projects like this is nothing more than communism. Solar is the most expensive method of producing electrical power, watt for watt. While hydrogen powered cars certainly exist today, fueling them is a pain in the neck. The freezing of the fuel nozzle is still a problem. Compressing hydrogen to those pressures and maintaining them there requires additional energy.
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True, sadly.
 
Primavera said:
This is a truly amazing development, which only the Japanese appear able to pull off.

Yamaha's 450-HP Hydrogen V8 Could Save Internal Combustion
FEB 18, 2022

And it's already lined up for use by Toyota!

From motorcycles to snowmobiles, Yamaha's engineering expertise knows no bounds. The Japanese brand has previously teamed up with carmakers, famously helping Volvo shoehorn a V8 into early S80 and XC90 models. But when it comes to automotive partnerships, Yamaha and Toyota have done some truly incredible work together, from the magnificent V10-powered LFA to the current Lexus IS 500 V8.

But Toyota has contracted Yamaha yet again, this time to create a hydrogen-powered V8 engine. Based on the 5.0-liter engine found in the RC F, modifications have been made to the cylinder heads, intake manifold, injectors, and several other components. Running on hydrogen, it produces 450-horsepower at 6,800 rpm and 398 lb-ft of torque at 3,600 rpm.

Read more:
https://carbuzz.com/news/yamahas-450-hp-hydrogen-v8-could-save-internal-combustion
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The problem is hydrogen infrastructure (or lack thereof) and refueling woes, Tom.
 
Primavera said:
I have shares in Nikola, naturally the likes of Musk detest them.
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So what?

The fact is that the infrastructure does not exist, no government appears willing to subsidize one, and the refueling issues as detailed by ITN above are real.

I'd like nothing better than a transition to hydrogen, Tom, but it just isn't happening.
 
Legion said:
So what?

The fact is that the infrastructure does not exist, no government appears willing to subsidize one, and the refueling issues as detailed by ITN above are real.

I'd like nothing better than a transition to hydrogen, Tom, but it just isn't happening.
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It is most definitely happening but that's in spite of government, who've decided EVs as opposed FCEVs are the way forward. The refuelling issues cited are trivial and not worth worrying about. Anyway, ITN has demonstrated a total lack of understanding of the behaviour of IR photons interacting with CO2 molecules, thermodynamics and quantum theory. So why should I look to him for advice?
 
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Legion said:
So what?

The fact is that the infrastructure does not exist, no government appears willing to subsidize one, and the refueling issues as detailed by ITN above are real.

I'd like nothing better than a transition to hydrogen, Tom, but it just isn't happening.
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Nikola is destined to become a huge name in hydrogen fuelled trucks, they are currently building out the infrastructure needed for that. Daimler and Volvo are also moving into that market as well.
 
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