Biden green lights funds for nationwide electric vehicle charging network.

BartenderElite said:
So, are you opposed to this? Why would you be? It's trying to increase accessibility. How could that be a bad thing?

The budget is nothing. I think we probably spent that in the average hour in any one of the wars we've had...
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it benefits a tiny minority at the expense of everyone. moreover it benefits them very little as at-home charging is the only real feasible solution. makes no sense to put them on interstates as these cars are slow to charge and useless for long trips.

you cant make a case even for "the general welfare" due to its limited usage.
 
If the Revolution sticks around long enough you will be forced to buy electric, and you will not be able to cook with gas.....these sorts of decisions are above your paygrade.
 
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floriduhfan said:
A level 3 charging station can charge a vehicle in about 20 minutes. Where did 8 hours come from?
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Who told you that bungling Biden is going to install level 3 charging stations?

Level 3 or DC (direct-current) fast chargers use a 480-volt outlet and further cut charging times to half an hour. But they are costly. They also may cause batteries to degrade faster over time.

https://www.investors.com/news/ev-charging-stations-expanding-must-ramp-up-for-electric-vehicle-boom/

Where will the additional electrical power need to charge hundreds of millions of electric vehicles come from?

In the third quarter of 2021, there were just under 284 million vehicles operating on roads throughout the United States.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/859950/vehicles-in-operation-by-quarter-united-states/

I'll understand if you don't know the answer to either question, of course.
 
Celticguy said:
it benefits a tiny minority at the expense of everyone. moreover it benefits them very little as at-home charging is the only real feasible solution. makes no sense to put them on interstates as these cars are slow to charge and useless for long trips. you cant make a case even for "the general welfare" due to its limited usage.
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Isn't it a fact that many public charging stations are rendered inoperative by thieves?

With the price of copper soaring to unprecedented levels over the past year, criminals have started targeting EV charging stations to extract wiring, causing thousands of dollars’ worth of damage.

“One of the things we’re challenged with right now is trying to provide public EV chargers, and install them citywide,” said Ann Kloose, Sustainability Manager, City of Fresno.

Earlier this year, the Public Works Department installed 87 EV chargers across the city, but within two weeks 43 of them were severely damaged.

“They were vandalized to the point where in some cases the vandals had saws and dismantled the chargers,” Kloose added.



https://cities-today.com/can-us-cities-embrace-the-electric-vehicle-revolution/



Add the DEMOCRAT drive to defund police and go easy on criminals, and what are we looking at?
 
Celticguy said:
it benefits a tiny minority at the expense of everyone. moreover it benefits them very little as at-home charging is the only real feasible solution. makes no sense to put them on interstates as these cars are slow to charge and useless for long trips.

you cant make a case even for "the general welfare" due to its limited usage.
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A tiny minority TODAY.

This is about having a vision, and seeing what will be more beneficial 5 years down the line, or 20 years down the line. It moves things in a positive direction, more quickly. And it's a paltry amount.
 
Barfly said:
A tiny minority TODAY. This is about having a vision, and seeing what will be more beneficial 5 years down the line, or 20 years down the line. It moves things in a positive direction, more quickly. And it's a paltry amount.
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So you say.
 
I would prefer the money be spent on more mass transit, but the internal combustion vehicle is dead, less than 20 years nobody will drive a gas car. Charging times are getting shorter and shorter. The tipping point has already been reached, and once that happens the technology will advance rapidly.
 
Brad** said:
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I would prefer the money be spent on more mass transit, but the internal combustion vehicle is dead, less than 20 years nobody will drive a gas car. Charging times are getting shorter and shorter. The tipping point has already been reached, and once that happens the technology will advance rapidly.
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Where's the additional electricity needed to charge over 250 million road-registered vehicles going to come from, Brad**?
 
Legion said:
Where's the additional electricity needed to charge over 250 million road-registered vehicles going to come from, Brad**?
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Now Now,,,,,that wont do!

Americans systematically refuse to think things through, there is no need because any problems will be solved by way of magic.
 
Legion said:
Isn't it a fact that many public charging stations are rendered inoperative by thieves?

With the price of copper soaring to unprecedented levels over the past year, criminals have started targeting EV charging stations to extract wiring, causing thousands of dollars’ worth of damage.

“One of the things we’re challenged with right now is trying to provide public EV chargers, and install them citywide,” said Ann Kloose, Sustainability Manager, City of Fresno.

Earlier this year, the Public Works Department installed 87 EV chargers across the city, but within two weeks 43 of them were severely damaged.

“They were vandalized to the point where in some cases the vandals had saws and dismantled the chargers,” Kloose added.



https://cities-today.com/can-us-cities-embrace-the-electric-vehicle-revolution/



Add the DEMOCRAT drive to defund police and go easy on criminals, and what are we looking at?
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ouch ! it is a way easy target for copper.
 
Joe Capitalist said:
God Bless President Biden

The gas car is dead. Long live the EV.

The fuel of the future is electric, according to Secretaries of Energy and Transportation, Jennifer Granholm and Pete Buttigieg, who say they want to make it easier to come by.

The Biden administration announced Thursday that a portion of $5 billion of federal funding, over five years, is available to states that have a plan to upgrade or create new electric vehicle charging stations.

It’s part of the bipartisan infrastructure law, signed late last year. Each state must apply in order to receive a portion of the funding.

“This is about making sure everybody can get in on the EV revolution, it’s already happening, but we have to make sure that it’s made in America; that everyone benefits from cities to rural areas,” said Secretary Buttigieg.

Eventually, the administration says they want to expand charging in rural and underserved areas, but this round is intended for infrastructure along interstate highways or alternative fuel corridors.

“We want people to not have range anxiety, then we focus on areas where we haven’t seen a big uptake in electric vehicles. Maybe they are in urban areas. It might be poor communities,” said Granholm.

Electric vehicles made up less than 3% of new auto sales last year. Though that number is expected to increase within the next decade, Granholm acknowledges one significant roadblock: the cost.

“This is exactly why the president has pushed, as part of the Build Back Better agenda to have tax credits for the purchase of electric vehicles, both new and used ones,” Granholm said.
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Why should the top 20% income earners be subsidised for buying EV's? Why isn't Brandon subsiding hydrogen gas stations in a similar manner?
 
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BartenderElite said:
So, are you opposed to this? Why would you be? It's trying to increase accessibility. How could that be a bad thing?

The budget is nothing. I think we probably spent that in the average hour in any one of the wars we've had...
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It is not the government's responsibility to provide charging stations for private company's products.
 
RB 60 said:
It is not the government's responsibility to provide charging stations for private company's products.
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You really are immensely dense, do you think that upgrading the electricity grids and infrastructure is nothing as well ffs? Stick to serving cocktails, thinking is not for you.
 
Primavera said:
You really are immensely dense, do you think that upgrading the electricity grids and infrastructure is nothing as well ffs? Stick to serving cocktails, thinking is not for you.
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a client asked me the other day if cities will demand landlords install charging stations for each tenant so they have a place to charge their electric cars over night.........
 
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