bho's birth certificate revisited

Yurt said:
why don't you go back into that thread and address my recent posts showing your error in relying on that report for anything more than the sample and see where i address the backfire effect on liberals

i find it humorous that you, MM, usc are staying away from that thread after i cogently present solid arguments gleaned from the report that refute your bs claims and instead you and usc are arguing the thread elsewhere instead of addressing your own report in that thread
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Your argument could be made for any study. It's utterly stupid. You sound like USFREEDOM911 going off on how a poll of 2000 couldn't possibly represent the general population.

And the study doesn't have to represent the general population to show that among people who strongly identify with either conservative or liberal, the trend is valid.

You have nothing but very, very weak and retarded attempts to discredit the thing. I'm staying away from it hoping I'll get someone with something to contribute to post on it without you derailing it further. If you post something worth mentioning there, I'll address it. Pulling random bits from the study that you don't understand to try to refute something that can't be refuted with the study (because the study made the finding I posted) doesn't qualify.
 
my arguments are valid and the report speaks for itself....now

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/backfire-effect-t19811.html?p=474042

go there and address the report instead of blindly assuming you're right, you are exhibiting backfire effect right now....i opened myself up to your ideas, read your fucking report as i said and you don't have the courtesy or the balls to go back to that thread and address what i laid out for you

you crack me up
 
Yurt said:
my arguments are valid and the report speaks for itself....now

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/backfire-effect-t19811.html?p=474042

go there and address the report instead of blindly assuming you're right, you are exhibiting backfire effect right now....i opened myself up to your ideas, read your fucking report as i said and you don't have the courtesy or the balls to go back to that thread and address what i laid out for you

you crack me up
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Backfire effect means you'd have to refute my misconception, then I'd have to be more convinced I was right. That's not even close to what I'm doing. For that to happen, you'd have to show me part of the report where liberals exhibited the backfire effect to contradict what I posted. Hint: you won't find it.
 
If the BC is so unimportant..

then why is the Democrat controlled lamestream media reporting in full frenzied foaming at the mouth attack mode today..

I've counted about 10 articles on the net...

poor Lou Dobbs of Cnn had the nerve to mention it, and the lefties are calling for him to be fired..

makes you wonder, doesn't it???
 
meme said:
If the BC is so unimportant..

then why is the Democrat controlled lamestream media reporting in full frenzied foaming at the mouth attack mode today..

I've counted about 10 articles on the net...

poor Lou Dobbs of Cnn had the nerve to mention it, and the lefties are calling for him to be fired..

makes you wonder, doesn't it???
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Lou Dobbs is da man!
 
meme said:
If the BC is so unimportant..

then why is the Democrat controlled lamestream media reporting in full frenzied foaming at the mouth attack mode today..

I've counted about 10 articles on the net...

poor Lou Dobbs of Cnn had the never to mention it, and the lefties are calling for him to be fired..

makes you wonder, doesn't it???
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I just love to see whacked out liberals spinning out of control. Today we get like 1000's for the price of one!

Much ado about nuttin' they say.....

Hee-hee-hee... Makes you wonder what's going to happen when sumpin' happens, now don't it? :eek:
 
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I have a original Birth certificate from Hawaii..

and what they are holding up as his supposed proof...looks nothing like mine.

the one they are showing is only a Certificate of a live birth...it is not a original birth certificate..

he has yet given the permission to Hawaii to release his ORGINIAL..if there is one.

so maybe just maybe there is sumthing to this story, eh.
 
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There's no law that says you need to hold on to the birth certificate from the day of your birth or you lose US citizenship. The state routinely gives reissues to people.
 
meme said:
I have a original Birth certificate from Hawaii..

and what they are holding up as his supposed proof...looks nothing like mine.

the one they are showing is only a Certificate of a live birth...it is not a original birth certificate..

he has yet given the permission to Hawaii to release his ORGINIAL..

so maybe just maybe there is sumthing to this story, eh.
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If there were truly nothing to this, they would be all over producing the BC and screaming how hysterical the Connies are with making a big deal outta nothing.

That they haven't is a scream!
 
Also, remember the left was demanding that McCain show proof he was constitutionally qualified to run as President because he was born in Panama(I believe that is where)...

there was no big outcry then that those people were a bunch of left-wings hater racist hacks..

but that is all you hear in the articles today...these people asking this of "the Hugo" are a bunch of angry, racist haters, who want to take down the President...

something is weird
 
ib1yysguy said:
Backfire effect means you'd have to refute my misconception, then I'd have to be more convinced I was right. That's not even close to what I'm doing. For that to happen, you'd have to show me part of the report where liberals exhibited the backfire effect to contradict what I posted. Hint: you won't find it.
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what part of go to that thread, read my posts and address them do you not understand.....if you continue to avoid that thread i will take that as your admission you're wrong and cannot rationally counter what i presented
 
meme said:
Also, remember the left was demanding that McCain show proof he was constitutionally qualified to run as President because he was born in Panama(I believe that is where)...

there was no big outcry then that those people were a bunch of left-wings hater racist hacks..

but that is all you hear in the articles today...these people asking this of "the Hugo" are a bunch of angry, racist haters, who want to take down the President...

something is weird
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The same people who wanted all of Bush's military records which would not have disqualified him to be President now are silent when something can easily show the nutjobs that they are wrong, but is refused and which would actually disqualify him as President if the nutjobs were right...

Yup. I find it fascinating. Both sides of it. We've never known less about a President in modern history but so many people are willing to just sit happily in silence drinking the leftover kool-aid and singing Kumbaya.
 
If Obama had lost his original, and only had the reissue to show, would that disqualify him from being president?
 
Taichiliberal said:
This is why I call these people "willfully ignorant neocon parrots".

Conservative wonk Michael Medved stated that this is a distraction from real issues that makes the GOP and conservatives look silly....he just made the understatement of the day.

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2009/07/wingnut-birthers-have-no-case-against-obama.html
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Medved is not a Conservative, but nice try..
and like you all backed off the military records of President Bush and said that was a distraction, didn't you? no you still wouldn't believe it even when he released them..

just like the cry, Bush was selected not elected..

you all have no room to call anyone "willfully ignorant neocons parrots"
 
All "the Hugo" would have to do is hold up his orginial birth cerficate and he could end all this...

instead he has now spent over a million dollars fighting it's release..

think about it..
 
meme said:
All "the Hugo" would have to do is hold up his orginial birth cerficate and he could end all this...

instead he has now spent over a million dollars fighting it's release..

think about it..
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I hear that a lot. My guess is that figure is total bullshit.
 
Damocles said:
The same people who wanted all of Bush's military records which would not have disqualified him to be President now are silent when something can easily show the nutjobs that they are wrong, but is refused and which would actually disqualify him as President if the nutjobs were right...

The Shrub went to the top of the list and got into the National Guard because strings were pulled....the man who pulled those strings publically admitted he did so. A matter of fact & history.

The Shrub was absent for one month from the National Guard without permission. That was corroborated by military officers in administrative positions...a matter of fact & history.

Yup. I find it fascinating. Both sides of it. We've never known less about a President in modern history but so many people are willing to just sit happily in silence drinking the leftover kool-aid and singing Kumbaya.
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We know who his mother was, who his father was. We know where he was born, where he went to school, who he married, his academic credentials, his work history. What's pissing off neocons is the FACT that he beat the GOP machine...because the GOP FAILED the American people in the last 8 years. What pissses off the neocons, ultra-conservatives and bigots is that an intelligent black man who DOES NOT fall into their standard complaints/fears/expectations about blacks in positions of authority and power.

If people listen to the alternative media, like WBAI Pacifica Broadcast or Democracy Now! or Air America, you know that the left punditry is not drinking Obama Kool-Aid. That's the reality of the situation.
 
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