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Southern Man said:
Wow now including Indians new straw man tactic. *shrug*
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When you said "There were still americans" to whom were you referring?

Since there was no nation yet, you couldn't have been referring to the United States of America. So you could only have been referring to residents of this geographical area that would (one day) be the USA.

Straw man is not a very good debating tactic unless your opponent did raise a straw man argument.
 
Southern Man said:
Its relevant because I find it incredibly uninteresting that a guy who's 7'-2" can put a ball through a hoop suspended 10' in the air, or a guy who's 350# can walk into the end zone with a handful of 200 pounders hanging on his neck. *shrug*
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More unussual then a man who can assimilate more than double the amount of oxygen of a normal person and who can crank out 500 watts of power? You don't know what your talking about. Having that genetic determined ability is no more or less freaky then being 7' tall, or 350lb or having 42" of vertical leap. The point is, they are all extremely rare and gifted athletes.
 
WinterBorn said:
If you are going by the geography instead of the actual formation of a nation, the french were certainly not the first enemy.
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You're assuming he has a logic. The French don't speak English and therefore are quintessentially unAmerican and must be our enemies. Where as we all know how American the British are.
 
WinterBorn said:
When you said "There were still americans" to whom were you referring?

Since there was no nation yet, you couldn't have been referring to the United States of America. So you could only have been referring to residents of this geographical area that would (one day) be the USA.

Straw man is not a very good debating tactic unless your opponent did raise a straw man argument.
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Yea, if anyone is guilty of using a strawman it's SM. Actually it's just plain ignorance of American history.
 
Mottleydude said:
That's his point silly. Colonials in North America fought for both sides in the 7 years war. This was a war between Britain and France and not between France and American colonialist. Where did you ever get such an idea?
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First of all, the war was started by George Washington, and it lasted here for 9 years, as opposed to 7 years in Europe. Secondly, without the events of the War, there would have been no American Revolutionary movement (1763-91) and no War of Independence (1776-83).
 
Mottleydude said:
There you go again. They weren't "American Colonist" as America did not exist until 1783. They were British colonist and therefore British Subjects.
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British Subjects in the American Colonies. Fighting the French.

Oh lookie, you were wrong with the Seven Year's War thing:

In 1754, it becomes clear that England is facing a war with France (war does erupt in 1754, and it is known by two names: the Seven Years' War [in Europe] and the French and Indian War [in America]). Franklin immediately brings forward plans for defense of the colonies. He also draws a plan for setting up the government during the war. He works closely with the Governors of Pennsylvania and New York, a task that requires extensive travel. Franklin develops a funding plan for the armed forces based on loans. However, his efforts begin to concern the English government that the colonies may be becoming too self-sufficient, and as a result it sends numerous reserve forces to the American colonies.
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http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/franklinautobio/section6.rhtml

*shrug*
 
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charver said:
Oh, sorry about that, SM.

I had the odd impression that when the United States came into existence you had some sort of a minor spat with Britain. I didn't realise that the fledgeling United States of America was waging a secret war with the French as well.

The things you learn, eh?
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The first confrontation America ever had post-independence was the quasi-war with France. So you could say they were our first post-independence enemies. However, you couldn't say they were our first "enemies" since that was Britian and France was actually allied with us on that (although not because they liked us).
 
Southern Man said:
Again, he doesn't appear to be a freak from the outside. *shrug*
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So you are maintaining that you are still correct in what you said because they don't "look" like a freak? LOL

Thats just priceless. Charver is right, you have made yourself look like a silly sausage today.
 
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