ONLY SIX PERCENT OF SCIENTISTS ARE REPUBLICANS

I actually have to defend Dixie here. I haven't seen what these polsters define as "scientist". For example. Engineers are applied scientist and most of the ones I know are intensely conservative. SM's views are pretty representative of most of the Engineers I know. Does this poll only list "academics" as scientist? This would be a specious definition of "scientist" at best and their liberal tendencies would probably more closely related to their being academics then scientist. If you broaden the term "scientist" to include applied scientist such as Engineers, MD's (and other physicians), Geologist, as well as, credentialed theoretical scientist who work outside of academia I bet you'd see poll numbers more representative of the general public. Granted in recent years scientist have been leaving the republican party (I consider myself an applied scientist and have done R&D as well as applied science in my career) in significant numbers but that has also been a trend in the general population as well. I'm not to sure this poll is credible.
As an engineer I have to agree here... Almost every engineer that I know is conservative or conservative/libertarian.
 

You're right about PEW, they have not defined what is a scientist in this poll and you're wrong about AAAS being a liberal organization. The AAAS has been viscously and repeatedly attacked by those on the far right for its defense of sound science which the far right irrationally opposes such as evolutionary theory and modern cosmology and geology. Opposing a far right agenda does not make one a "liberal" organization. Calling for diversity in science is just common sense as there's not a whole lot of use for dogma in science considering its tentative nature.
 
what about software engineers...like me...we are all crazy, comes with associating with computers
Most of them are the libertarians among us. Them and the other technology engineers. Our type have the coldly logical mindset that I find among most of the rational libertarians.
 
Hey Damo, guess what my degree is?

And you base your philosophy on emotion just as much as anyone else, you just pretend not to. A philosophy not based on emotion would be a philosophy that made no conclusions.
 
Hey Damo, guess what my degree is?

And you base your philosophy on emotion just as much as anyone else, you just pretend not to. A philosophy not based on emotion would be a philosophy that made no conclusions.
Almost all of philosophy is based in emotion, this is a truism. But it doesn't change my description at all, nor the basis in which I apply it. Your degree is in nothing, because you have yet to receive it. Although if you are working towards one in engineering I suspect you find yourself surrounded by libertarians and conservatives.
 
I'm sorry, I should have said "major". I would've thought you would understand the context, but it seems you've decided to pretend not to.
"Almost all of philosophy is based in emotion, this is a truism. But it doesn't change my description at all, nor the basis in which I apply it. Your degree is in nothing, because you have yet to receive it. Although if you are working towards one in engineering I suspect you find yourself surrounded by libertarians and conservatives."

Except I did...
 
Although if you are working towards one in engineering I suspect you find yourself surrounded by libertarians and conservatives.

Somehow, I doubt that. The college educated are the Dems no. 1 resource. Libertarians only exist on the internet. Conservatives are rare amongst college educated unless you're talking about a business or some other fluff degree.
 
Somehow, I doubt that. The college educated are the Dems no. 1 resource. Libertarians only exist on the internet. Conservatives are rare amongst college educated unless you're talking about a business or some other fluff degree.
Not my experience at all, but heck you may be in the one Engineering department not peopled with libertarians.
 
Not my experience at all, but heck you may be in the one Engineering department not peopled with libertarians.

Well, as I recently said, I decided to change my dual major to include Physics. So if I go the Physics route, I will definitely be surrounded by Democrats, with a minority of independents, and the odd 1 out of every 20 Republican.
 
idiots. democrat and repubican are brands, NOT phiosophies.

LOL.

They are generalizations, sure, but they do generally represent certain philosophies. Democrats are about half "left", half centre, and republicans are mostly "right" with a little centre on the side (they can afford to be far more right wing than the Democrats are left wing because Conservatism is simply so much more popular the liberalism right now, and has been for as far back as I've seen polls).
 
Not my experience at all, but heck you may be in the one Engineering department not peopled with libertarians.
I dunno Damo. He may have a bit of a point. My experience in the work world and at the undergraduate level is that your stereotype engineer is is a white male anal retentive conservative. You're the only libertarian engineer (and I know a shit load of engineers) I know of so I think you're seeing what you want to there.

Having said that, when I was a research assistant in OSU's engineering graduate department (The only bioligist/chemist on a team of engineers...a fate worse then death, worse, I was the only one who received a living wage and not a graduate student stipend.) there were;

#1. Damn precious few white American males in the graduate department at all and,

#2. I kid you not there was only 1 of the white male students in the graduate engineering department who wasn't gay and,

#3. The graduate students in the engineering department were dominated by Asian and Asian/American students (male and female) and they were predominantly liberal. There were only two token Republicans in the department and I was one of them (at the time, this was in 94 - 97, before I left the party in 03).
 
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Okay, I'm preempting here but the reaction from the righties on this site is going to be, "SEE! I knew they couldn't be trusted!"

Basically these idiots hate anyone who brings people facts. Scientists who make a living at it, journalists who make a living at it, professors who make a living at it. They HATE these people.

The money involvement is precisely why they are not to be trusted. All of them are dependant on the statist fascist military industrial complex for their paychecks. Through grants, contracts, media access etc they are paid.

The corrupting spigot of fiat currency turned on full throttle with malice aforethought is the undoing of human morality, and the lynchpin in the illuminati plan to enslave humanity.

QFT.
 
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