ONLY SIX PERCENT OF SCIENTISTS ARE REPUBLICANS

Dixie said:
The fact that you won't shut up with this silliness is proof you must be a mental retard. I am through discussing this, it's been discussed in well over 2 dozen threads, and over 5,000 posts to date. So I think everything that could possibly be said about 1/3 has been said. If you need to go back and read it all again, there is a nice "search" feature Damo has for just such queries. Have at it!
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It doesn't matter. The fact that you are still claiming that one cannot be equally divided into three is a serious problem, and casts doubt on your mental stability. I have, at least, proven that 0.999999e = 1, so you can draw your conclusions from there.
 
Watermark said:
It doesn't matter. The fact that you are still claiming that one cannot be equally divided into three is a serious problem, and casts doubt on your mental stability. I have, at least, proven that 0.999999e = 1, so you can draw your conclusions from there.
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Leave him alone. It's cruel.
 
Watermark said:
Only absurd special pleadings that were designed specifically to be untestable, like god.
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No, not only spiritual phenomenon (which science can't explain), but also very physical phenomenon. Black holes, dark matter, anti matter... gravity itself, they don't fully understand why it works. Until a very short time ago, they weren't even aware of gamma ray bursts in the universe, and didn't think they occurred outside of nuclear explosions.

They will always defy the ability to test them ,because their propents will invent an infinite number of different untestable special pleadings as to why they can't be tested.
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LOL.... Untestable pleadings? Well, if science can't test it, then science can't explain it. That has nothing to do with what IS. See, this is where your Religion of Science starts to fail you. There are a number of things science can't test, but they are part of reality because they exist. Science doesn't have to test something to make it real.

And this is the strength of science. That it revises it's findings with new evidence, unlike other philosophies of knowledge. That's what makes science great. It doesn't DETRACT from science!
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But the fact that it revises what it finds, is evidence that it doesn't draw conclusion, and that was my original point. Science doesn't determine anything as conclusive fact, it just doesn't do that. You might want to believe it does, you might have all of your personal religious faith invested in believing that, I don't know... but science has never been in the business of "proving" things or drawing definitive conclusions.
 
ib1yysguy said:
Thread effectively derailed.
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Well your thread was to SCREAM that 6% of scientists are Republican!

Since the vast majority of working scientists in America, are recipients of some form of government grant, it makes me wonder what those 6% Republicans are thinking! Maybe those 6% are working on republican science... you know, making bigger bombs and seeing how much of the RDA they can get into a can of Alpo for the old folks!

I have to wonder though... Anyone who earns a graduate degree in a field of science, can technically say they are a "scientist" ...so did they do a poll of every person who has a science degree? I didn't get my questionnaire! Or maybe this was a poll of the Annual Pinhead Atheist Science Club, where 100 pinhead atheists showed up, and 6 of them decided to say they were republicans so they would have a better shot at the door prize?
 
Dixie said:
Well your thread was to SCREAM that 6% of scientists are Republican!

Since the vast majority of working scientists in America, are recipients of some form of government grant, it makes me wonder what those 6% Republicans are thinking! Maybe those 6% are working on republican science... you know, making bigger bombs and seeing how much of the RDA they can get into a can of Alpo for the old folks!

I have to wonder though... Anyone who earns a graduate degree in a field of science, can technically say they are a "scientist" ...so did they do a poll of every person who has a science degree? I didn't get my questionnaire! Or maybe this was a poll of the Annual Pinhead Atheist Science Club, where 100 pinhead atheists showed up, and 6 of them decided to say they were republicans so they would have a better shot at the door prize?
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You're not a scientist. Claiming to have a psych degree doesn't qualify you. Not to mention, you're not a practicing scientist. And you're retarded.

And I'm really sure Pew went and fucked up the poll and everything 'cause they're really bad at doing those.
 
ib1yysguy said:
You may have a difference of opinion about the fact of gravity, but that's not going to work out very well for you when you're falling.
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I think Dixie meant "absolute fact" and not "Conclusive Fact". Science has drawn conclusions about all sorts of facts, like gravity, of which none are absolute facts. Dixie is correctly pointing out that all science is tentative.
 
ib1yysguy said:
Dixie, unbeknownst to him, is proving my point very well.

The reason six percent of scientists are Republicans is precisely because people like Dixie and the rest of his party are vehemently ANTI science and JUMP at the opportunity to rail against it, as Mr. BS himself is presently doing.
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I have a hard time taking this poll seriously. The right wing extremist in the Republican party has certainly alienated scientist with their reactionary ways. Scientist are an objective lot. Having said that, does this poll discount Engineers as scientist? Most engineers I know are not just conservative but tend to be intensely conservative. By engineering standards SM is a liberal.
 
Dixie said:
Science has never determined a single thing as conclusive fact.

That's a fact!
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The scientific definition of "Fact" is different from the everyday definition. Just like the definition of "Theory" is different in the scientific world as opposed to our every day conversations.

Technically Dixie is almost correct.
 
Mottleydude said:
You mean an absolute fact, don't you?
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You could say it that way too.

Mottleydude said:
I think Dixie meant "absolute fact" and not "Conclusive Fact". Science has drawn conclusions about all sorts of facts, like gravity, of which none are absolute facts. Dixie is correctly pointing out that all science is tentative.
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Science has drawn conclusions indeed, but science is never conclusive. I think I explained it very well, and very accurately. You seem to want to parse words and play a little semantics game, and that's alright, I don't expect pinheads to agree with me, even when they admit I am right.

WinterBorn said:
The scientific definition of "Fact" is different from the everyday definition. Just like the definition of "Theory" is different in the scientific world as opposed to our every day conversations.

Technically Dixie is almost correct.
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No, the definition of a FACT is the same regardless of what 'language' you are speaking. You can't make something a FACT that isn't a FACT, and claim it IS a FACT because you are using the scientific definition. That is just plain absurd and ridiculous. I mean RIDICULOUS.... as in, you should be soundly ridiculed for making such an ignorant and foolish statement.

usidiot: Almost correct is about as close as Dixie ever gets.
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LOL... and copying someone's stupid one-liners is about as close as usidiot ever gets to an original thought!
 
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