Do conservatives even know what CRT is?

anatta said:
cite please.
and it's overwhelming colleges. moreover combined with "equity" becomes much more then a stale academic exercise.
You have white oppression leading to "unequal outcomes" - forcing government/academic policies of equity.
vile stuff

you picked a shitty hill to die on. CRT is loathsome anti-Americanism
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Inane, again, how can one disprove that which has yet to be proven, you are just regurgitating the very “points” that are discredited in the topic post
 
Yakuda said:
What the fuck is your expertise on a random internet site? Why dont you write to him and ask him how much he fucking knows about it? You imagine he is opposed to it because hes's stupid? What was it your sheep fucking president said? Poor kids are as smart as white kids?
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You bring nothing to the exchange that one can’t hear by turning on AM radio, stop wasting others time
 
archives said:
See that is incorrect, it began, and still is a college level course, not an ideology, never was, and actually never could be based on the content, the “discussions” you have based your opinion on are wrong if they are explaining it as an ideology. And no one is trying to “filter it into the classroom,” doubt even SF has, which is the distortion the right is presenting

Each side does distort and demagogue issues, however, you don’t see the left scaremongering as much as the right does, nor on personal safely issues, as the right does seemingly on a daily basis. What’s their issues today; threatening criminals sneaking across the border, those people murdering others in cities, and here, supposedly elites forcefully trying to tell kids they are racists cause the live in the US
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It began as a course? When? Where? Can you show any examples of it being a course? It was an academic movement, not a course.

Even on this board you have people arguing that CRT needs to be in our classroom so I'm not sure how you're arguing it's not. You live in New York. The Dalton School and others are making national news regarding the anti-racism movement and CRT. I'm not sure how you say it's not in the classroom or our schools (whether you agree with it or not).

You're free to not see it as an ideology but that's basically exactly what it is.

Regarding politics of course someone on the left is going to see complaints against Republicans not as demo gauging or scaremongering (remember Joe Biden, "they'll put y'all back in chains") but view it that way when its done to you. There's plenty of stuff Republicans do and say that I don't agree with or support but I have little to no sympathy when someone on the left complains but isn't willing to acknowledge your own involvement.

You know how Trump couldn't handle any criticism (like don't become the most powerful person on the planet if you can't handle criticism) well that's how you are here about Democrats. Biden and Democrats aren't God. They don't do everything right. They aren't above reproach. So yes they will be criticized and if it offends you I wouldn't follow politics so closely.
 
It's just the latest right-wing bogeyman.

"Cancel culture," "Caravans at the Border" and "The War on Christmas" were starting to hit their shelf life.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I have defined what it is in multiple threads. I am not going to do it again here. I have shown very definitively and exactly what CRT is, where it was derived from, and who the principle academics are that invented it, including Derrick Bell, Richard Delgado, Kimberlé Crenshaw, among others. I've shown it's origins from Marxism and Critical Pedagogy in detail. I've given multiple examples of it being used in K-12 for curricula, citing for example the Chicago area Little Village Social Justice High School among others.

Pay attention better.
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As soon as you go to “ideology” it tells you are just reflecting the view, rather distorted view, being offered by individuals as those shown in the topic post. The Marxism” inclusion comes right from Mark Levine, added touch

And again, what you believe are “multiple examples” is but an immeasurable number given the thousands of school districts in American
 
cawacko said:
It began as a course? When? Where? Can you show any examples of it being a course? It was an academic movement, not a course.

Even on this board you have people arguing that CRT needs to be in our classroom so I'm not sure how you're arguing it's not. You live in New York. The Dalton School and others are making national news regarding the anti-racism movement and CRT. I'm not sure how you say it's not in the classroom or our schools (whether you agree with it or not).

You're free to not see it as an ideology but that's basically exactly what it is.

Regarding politics of course someone on the left is going to see complaints against Republicans not as demo gauging or scaremongering (remember Joe Biden, "they'll put y'all back in chains") but view it that way when its done to you. There's plenty of stuff Republicans do and say that I don't agree with or support but I have little to no sympathy when someone on the left complains but isn't willing to acknowledge your own involvement.

You know how Trump couldn't handle any criticism (like don't become the most powerful person on the planet if you can't handle criticism) well that's how you are here about Democrats. Biden and Democrats aren't God. They don't do everything right. They aren't above reproach. So yes they will be criticized and if it offends you I wouldn't follow politics so closely.
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Started, and still is in some areas, part of the college curriculum offered as an elective in some schools

Some individuals are arguing that racism should be taught better in schools, it should, but I’ve seen few argue the need for actual CRT to be incorporated, like the right, many on the left don’t understand what CRT is

I know nothing of the Dalton school, I think you are forgetting how big New York is, but I do know nothing close to CRT is in the State endorsed curriculum, and I am sure this Dalton School has been cherry picked by the right wing media and generalized to imply all schools across America. It is not an ideology, farm from it

Biden’s remark was one comment, it wasn’t echoed for months nor incorporated as part of a larger effort, bad example, and I did acknowledge the left does the same, but not to the degree, emotion, nor involvement that the right does seemingly daily
 
archives said:
As soon as you go to “ideology” it tells you are just reflecting the view, rather distorted view, being offered by individuals as those shown in the topic post. The Marxism” inclusion comes right from Mark Levine, added touch

And again, what you believe are “multiple examples” is but an immeasurable number given the thousands of school districts in American
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Critical race theory (CRT) was officially organized in 1989, at the first annual Workshop on Critical Race Theory, though its intellectual origins go back much farther, to the 1960s and ’70s. Its immediate precursor was the critical legal studies (CLS) movement, which dedicated itself to examining how the law and legal institutions serve the interests of the wealthy and powerful at the expense of the poor and marginalized. (CLS, an offshoot of Marxist-oriented critical theory,
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https://www.britannica.com/topic/critical-race-theory

So, Encyclopedia Britannica is wrong you say...?

I told you, I researched CRT thoroughly. I know it's origins. I know who the academics that invented it are.

In an interview with MSNBC's Joy Reid Tuesday, https://thepostmillennial.com/reid-crenshaw-crt-marxism, the activist turned Columbia University law professor who came up with the concept of intersectionality, if critical race theory is Marxism. Crenshaw could not deny it, and chose instead to dance around the question.
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https://thepostmillennial.com/reid-crenshaw-crt-marxism

Crenshaw is an unabashed Marxist Communist herself.

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Read her stuff sometime. She makes her political ideology crystal clear.

https://www.historicalmaterialism.org/articles/intersectionality-and-marxism
 
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archives said:
You bring nothing to the exchange that one can’t hear by turning on AM radio, stop wasting others time
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Bring nothing but your leftist billshit. Your dick of a president is the only one more fucking retarded than you. You cunt.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
CRT is also widely used as the basis for creating curricula for courses in education and has trickled down to K-12 in that capacity as well as being used in a large number of college courses as the basis or partial basis for curricula in coursework.
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So what is your problem? That kids are taught the racist history of the country? Would you prefer if they were taught a sanitized, feel-good version of history instead? Don't you think that is more damaging than just telling the truth?
 
AProudLefty said:
No you have not.
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Then let me do it again:

Critical Race Theory Isn’t a Curriculum. It’s a Practice
The furor over CRT removes a valuable tool from teachers’ hands
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https://www.edweek.org/leadership/o...eory-isnt-a-curriculum-its-a-practice/2021/05

Critical Race Theory In Wisconsin K12 Education
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We found that Critical Race Theory (CRT) – or one of the many other names for CRT, like Culturally Responsive Teaching (CRT), equity, antiracism, woke, implicit bias, white privilege – is being taught in many school districts all across the state and is quickly on its way to fundamentally changing K12 education in Wisconsin.
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https://www.maciverinstitute.com/2021/05/critical-race-theory-in-wisconsin-k12-education/

Some Hawaiʻi teachers (in K -12) use critical race theory as part of their curriculum, but there are no policies or laws in place to teach or ban critical race theory in Hawaiʻi.
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https://www.hawaiipublicradio.org/local-news/2021-06-01/critical-race-theory-for-k-12-graders

After more than four years of heated controversy, on March 18 the California Department of Education will vote on the fourth and most likely final draft of the Ethnic Studies Model Curriculum (ESMC).
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https://archive.ph/M5Vax#selection-1235.0-1239.47

I even posted the California official curriculum in threads including the parts using CRT.

President Joe Biden's administration is seeking to elevate critical race theory and the dangers of misinformation in the country's classrooms by prioritizing federal grants for programs that would teach students about the two subjects.

Biden's Education Department proposed the priorities for American history and civics education curricula through a regulation published this week after the president signaled the approach via executive actions taken early in his term.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...sh-critical-race-theory-federal-grant-program

See: https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...s-american-history-and-civics-education#print

So, yes, I have posted and again have posted evidence of CRT's use in K-12 schools.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Teaching an actual course on CRT is not necessary for CRT to be used as the basis for shaping curricula for other courses. Where that is done, CRT is indeed being used in education, and used widely.
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Right, and society hasn't crumbled, the country hasn't dissolved, the sky hasn't fallen.

So maybe CRT isn't as bad as it's being made out to be.
 
LV426 said:
So what is your problem? That kids are taught the racist history of the country? Would you prefer if they were taught a sanitized, feel-good version of history instead? Don't you think that is more damaging than just telling the truth?
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Awww... ad hominem. How uselessly cute...
 
anatta said:
and it's overwhelming colleges. moreover combined with "equity" becomes much more then a stale academic exercise.
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You can't even say what it is about CRT that has you so upset.

I think it's because CRT ruins the myth of American exceptionalism that you and others cling to in order to justify your complacency.


You have white oppression leading to "unequal outcomes" - forcing government/academic policies of equity.
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What?

Incoherent.


you picked a shitty hill to die on. CRT is loathsome anti-Americanism
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The reason you hate CRT so much is the same reason you hated Obama for saying "you didn't build that".
 
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