Politicizing Sports continues: Gwen Berry turns her back on the US flag and anthem

[Dutch Uncle]

They fired him for being black and standing up for black equality

Kap? Isn't it more true that Kap is a mediocre ball player and his contract was running out so he decided to "make a statement"?

It's a smart move for Kap. A win-win; if he is picked up, his NFL life continues, if he doesn't, then he's a BLACK hero for African-Americans which has proved to be worth a $30M contract with Nike. No doubt his contract allowed him to take a knee anywhere he fucking liked.

God Bless America!

 

[Dutch Uncle]

For good or bad the people have to decide for themselves what's true and what isnt.

People always will.* The problem here is that a small group of fucking morons attacked an institution voted into office by the majority of Americans.

How does that truth compare to yours?


*IMHO, anyone who doesn't think like our grandparents where they expected no help from anyone by stocking up and preparing to defend themselves isn't thinking like our Founders. I agree with our Founders. The ideas weren't new. What was new was forming a government to protect from outsiders (namely the fucking Euros back then) and resolve disagreements between States, which remained largely autonomous outside of those few rules governed over all states.

 

[Yakuda]

People always will. The problem here is that a small group of fucking morons attacked an institution voted into office by the majority of Americans.

How does that truth compare to yours?

Well in principle we have little disagreement on that point. However as the current occupant of the WH said some Americans prefer truth to facts. Now the facts are simply that a small group of people illegally entered the capitol building. The truth in my opinion is malleable.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Well in principle we have little disagreement on that point. However as the current occupant of the WH said some Americans prefer truth to facts. Now the facts are simply that a small group of people illegally entered the capitol building. The truth in my opinion is malleable.

Dude, if you're going to quote somebody, then please back it up with facts. Yes, we have little disagreement about my previous post.


So what's the fucking problem? What ideas of mine do you disagree with? I disagree with those who cite supposed quotes without backing them up. Period.

If you don't like that, then, like the game of Hot Potato, it's no longer my problem. It's your problem. LOL

 

[Yakuda]

Dude, if you're going to quote somebody, then please back it up with facts. Yes, we have little disagreement about my previous post.


So what's the fucking problem? What ideas of mine do you disagree with? I disagree with those who cite supposed quotes without backing them up. Period.

If you don't like that, then, like the game of Hot Potato, it's no longer my problem. It's your problem. LOL

What quote? You don't know that Biden said dems prefer truth to facts???????? Next you characterized the small group of people as "fucking morons" . Now while they may be I don't know that they are but your "truth" says they are. Next you said they "attacked" an institution, that seems like a "truth". They entered illegally seems more factual. As to voted in by a majority of Americans that may be a "truth" as well. It's one I can accept because it's what we've been told and that fine. What makes me question the factual elements of that "truth" is the response from the left to even the mere question of whether or not the election results are legit. George porgies interview on one of those morning shows with rand Paul is a great example. Georgie was nearly apoplectic that rand would not say he accepted the election results. Why did it matter to Georgie since it was clear Biden was going to occupy the white house?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

What quote? You don't know that Biden said dems prefer truth to facts???????? Next you characterized the small group of people as "fucking morons" . Now while they may be I don't know that they are but your "truth" says they are. Next you said they "attacked" an institution, that seems like a "truth". They entered illegally seems more factual. As to voted in by a majority of Americans that may be a "truth" as well. It's one I can accept because it's what we've been told and that fine. What makes me question the factual elements of that "truth" is the response from the left to even the mere question of whether or not the election results are legit. George porgies interview on one of those morning shows with rand Paul is a great example. Georgie was nearly apoplectic that rand would not say he accepted the election results. Why did it matter to Georgie since it was clear Biden was going to occupy the white house?

Like "57 States" and "Both sides"? No, I hadn't heard it. TBH, I usually don't pay much attention to what a politician says until 3-4 days after s/he said it.
Gives it time for everyone to check facts, retract, "clarify", whatever.


Criminal cases are resolved in court. I'll happily await the results without being a fucking asshole who pressures juries to find a politically pleasing result.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Who cares, she was third, or loser to the loser! What anthem did the loser want played

Matt, try to keep up with the OP; she's an American attempting to cash in on her "blackness". Kap got $30M. Woot!

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Obviously you care enough to make a reply...

That said, the question about why you care remains valid.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The problem is your post was spot on! It's like that fucking soccer slut who complained women players get paid less. She should try peddling her shit in Iran and see how it goes but they won't. They will turn there backs on the flag. Fuck em all.

Oooh, dude. Now you're the one looking like a nut bag. Sad.

Why are you against the unalienable right of free speech? What is she doing that Trump and any other political asshole hasn't done?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

He’s black

Shut the fuck up

By whose determination and by what criteria?

<insert Monty Python "I'm being oppressed" meme>

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

The Trump era has brought many things into chaos!

Trump started politicizing everything as a way to divide his TRUMPTARDS from everybody else. Everything he uses as a back drop is now being used as wedges to divide people. The American Flag for one thing, has been used as a prop. His display of American flags everywhere at his rallies that defy Democracy should be an American sin. While he insults and lies about our military and our military leaders, and says things intended to erode our democracy is a disgrace to our flag and everything every American Soldier in American History fought and died for.

The word Patriot has been so abused and misused, it's sickening to even hear the word now. PLEASE DEFINE "GREAT AGAIN"! It only means "TRUMP AGAIN" to me when I hear it. And I never thought Trump could ever make anything great again. In my opinion, everything Trump touches goes to shit in a handbasket.

It all started at his insane ass-kissing Rally's. Even the music being abused and misused at Trump rallies has many of the original artists that wrote and performed those songs upset and for good reason.

And just look how Trump has abused something as sacred as the HOLY Bible that he only uses as a prop.

Anything that Trump can get his hands on- He exploits! And Nationalism and Americana is at the forefront of his exploitations. [Geeko Sportivo]

Trump just tried to make everything about him. And he is responsible for everything CHAOTIC that he has politicized- including sports.

And all the while- TRUMP IS THE WORLD"S WORST SPORT that won't even admit it when he is defeated hands down- much less congratulate the winner.

Even the site of someone wearing a red Ball cap or red gimme hat of any kind makes me cringe and want to throw-up now! I even threw away my TeXas Rangers Red Baseball cap because I don't want to be associated with TRUMP'S TRUMPTARDED RED HAT CLUB! Even the color red has a huge shit stain on it that will never go away now!

Sports figures have opinions too, and as long as TRUMP AND HIS TRUMPTARDS ARE OUT THERE EXPRESSING ALL OF HIS OPINIONS AT EVERY OPPORTUNE PODIUM- I see no reason why Sports figures should not be allowed to use the only podium they have to express theirs!

I mean what's next- Actors, Poets, Singers, Songwriters, Comedians, Novelists, are not going to be allowed to state their opinions publicly- Just Because it upsets somebody? PFFFFT! CRY ME A FUCKING RIVER!

PERSONALLY, I BELIEVE IT IS TIME FOR EVERYONE WITH A VOICE TO SPEAK UP AND STATE THEIR OPINION ABOUT ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO SPEAK UP ABOUT- AND THERE IS A LOT TO BE DISCUSSED!

 

[T. A. Gardner]

That said, the question about why you care remains valid.

I care because this woman could be representing our nation at the Olympics. I also care because I think sports--at least on the field--should rise above politics. If she wants to hate on the US off the field, that's fine by me just don't do it when you are representing the US or during play of the game.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I care because this woman could be representing our nation at the Olympics. I also care because I think sports--at least on the field--should rise above politics. If she wants to hate on the US off the field, that's fine by me just don't do it when you are representing the US or during play of the game.

Like the Feds holding all 503c groups accountable, I agree that any taxpayer support for Ms. Berry include a standard morals/conduct clause.

Aside from that, private companies can establish their own reasonable morals clauses in all contracts.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Like the Feds holding all 503c groups accountable, I agree that any taxpayer support for Ms. Berry include a standard morals/conduct clause.

Aside from that, private companies can establish their own reasonable morals clauses in all contracts.

Fine. You do know that this isn't the first time Ms. Berry has pulled this sort of stunt, and the last time she did she lost her position on the team.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Fine. You do know that this isn't the first time Ms. Berry has pulled this sort of stunt, and the last time she did she lost her position on the team.

She's probably pulling a "Kap"* and just making a fuss for the publicity. It's not like she came in first. LOL



*Kap; to "Kapitalize" on your position using racist memes.

 

[Althea]

Politics aren't the problem in sports.
Nationalism is.

Why do we need the anthem at sporting events?
It's a pain in the ass.
We started doing it during WWI and haven't had the intelligence to stop doing it.

Nobody can show where it's done any good.
The problems that it's caused, however, are well documented.

Screw the anthem. It serves no purpose.

I agree, but this is the Olympics trials. It's nation vs. nation. The Anthem signifies the medal winners' teams.

 

[Althea]

Wow. That's a hard left turn off the pavement and into a tree.

Good luck with your hate campaign to ban religion. Maybe Biden will do it before he resigns or Harris will do it next year as President.

BTW, it's against 503c rules to preach politics. Like the LW gun-banning agenda, this is an enforcement issue, not a "we need more laws" issue.

503c does not ban political speech. You are allowed to encourage people to vote. You just can't tell them who to vote for.

 

[Althea]

kapernick?

Ouch!

 

[Althea]

Playing sports does not include giving up free speach

There are clauses that address showing the team in a negative light, but typically that is on the field.

They can certainly speak freely on their own time.

 

[Althea]

That’s the podium they have, if they believe in something that strongly it is the best opportunity for them to express their view, one might not like what they have to say, but I understand why they do it, same strategy advertising employs to sell products

Yes. Some sacrifice more than others. In the end, they might end up with lucrative contracts elsewhere.

As Kap did.