Terrible news for the Creation Science museum (and Republicans)

[Micawber]

Elaine Dickinson: You got a letter from headquarters this morning.

Ted Striker: What is it?

Elaine Dickinson: It's a big building where generals meet, but that's not important.

Wish I could find the scene where Dudly Moore walks like the old butler after the Butler says "Walk this way"

 

[Micawber]

Time dilation and length contraction are consequences of special relativity, and if you were scientifically literate you might know that

Cool, a physics pissing match between Pee Wee Herman and John the Wad.

 

[Cypress]

There is no 'quantum theory of gravity'!

You did not respond to what I actually wrote.

I did not say there is currently a quantum theory of gravity.

I said most physicists believe we need to replace our current theory of gravity, aka general relativity, with a quantum theory of gravity.

"A step closer to a theory of quantum gravity"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/cosmos...ep-closer-to-a-theory-of-quantum-gravity/?amp

 

[Cypress]

I think of gravity as a geometry.

The curvature of spacetime.

Gravity is a force. Its effects can be represented graphically in many ways.

Your physics is out of date by 100 years.

Newtonian action at a distance by some mysterious force is 19th century science.

General relativity posits that gravity is not a force, but a curvature of spacetime induced by matter. The warping of spacetime induces deviation of the motion of matter and energy.

 

[Cypress]

It is about him confessing to being an idiot.

If an angel came down from the skies and showed an angel fossil turned into a human
and that evil angels planted fake fossil record evolution would be falsified. WTF not falsifiable.

Fossils are a fucking existing thing, so they can be proven false. So evolution meets Poppers stringent def.

Show me Noah's ark. Show me the ark of the covenant, show me the fossil record is forged. Not falsifiable my ass.
What it is is inconvenient to you. All the fucking evidence you CAN'T manage to falsify.
That doesn't mean it's not falsifiable you fucking insanely stupid freak, Into the abyss.

Even Karl Popper later came to admit evolution was falsifiable by his criteria of demarcation.

The problem with Popper is that he was not a practicing scientist himself and did not really have a realistic grasp on how ordinary science is done.

We are not going to throw out every theory immediately if one experimental result happens to point to the null hypothesis.

Scientific advancement would grind to a standstill if we did that.

There is no point in time in the immediate future we are going to toss out our current theory of gravitation just because we found dark energy and the accelerated expansion of the universe is inconsistent with GR and Newtonian mechanics.

 

[Into the Night]

Time dilation and length contraction are consequences of special relativity, and if you were scientifically literate you might know that

For who? I think you don't understand this theory at all.

 

[Into the Night]

You did not respond to what I actually wrote.

I did not say there is currently a quantum theory of gravity.
I said most physicists believe we need to replace our current theory of gravity, aka general relativity, with a quantum theory of gravity.

There is no 'quantum theory of gravity'.
Quantum mechanics does not concern itself with gravity.

 

[Cypress]

Space, time, even distance and length, are relative and depend on the frame of reference.

Paradox. Apparently you never read up on the works of Einstein.

Time dilation and length contraction are consequences of special relativity, and if you were scientifically literate you might know that

For who? I think you don't understand this theory at all.

for the observer

"Time dilation and length contraction in Special Relativity"

Time dilation, length contraction and the relativity of simultaneity are among the strange conclusions of special relativity.

https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/einsteinlight/jw/module4_time_dilation.htm

 

[Into the Night]

Your physics is out of date by 100 years.

Not a bit of it.

Newtonian action at a distance by some mysterious force is 19th century science.

There is no such thing as 'Newtonian action'. Newton's law of motion is still a theory of science today. Newton's law of gravitation is still a theory of science today.

General relativity posits that gravity is not a force, but a curvature of spacetime induced by matter. The warping of spacetime induces deviation of the motion of matter and energy.

The theory of general relativity makes no such statement. You really do not understand Einstein's theories at all.

 

[Into the Night]

Even Karl Popper later came to admit evolution was falsifiable by his criteria of demarcation.

Bulverism fallacy. The Theory of Evolution is not a theory of science.

The problem with Popper is that he was not a practicing scientist himself and did not really have a realistic grasp on how ordinary science is done.

Bulverism fallacy. Science is not 'done'. It is not a verb. It is a noun. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.

We are not going to throw out every theory immediately if one experimental result happens to point to the null hypothesis.

That's exactly what happens.

Scientific advancement would grind to a standstill if we did that.

Science isn't 'advancement'. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Science still changes. New theories are created all the time. Other theories are falsified.

There is no point in time in the immediate future we are going to toss out our current theory of gravitation just because we found dark energy and the accelerated expansion of the universe is inconsistent with GR and Newtonian mechanics.

Buzzword fallacies. The Theory of the Big Bang is not a theory of science. The 'expansion of the universe' itself is not possible, since there is no boundary (that we know of). Newton's laws have no been falsified. They are still part of the body of science today.

 

[Cypress]

Not a bit of it.

There is no such thing as 'Newtonian action'. Newton's law of motion is still a theory of science today. Newton's law of gravitation is still a theory of science today.

The theory of general relativity makes no such statement. You really do not understand Einstein's theories at all.

Newton's equations are still in practice. That is just math.

The underlying principle of Newtonian gravitation - aka, action at a distance - has been displaced as an explanatory mechanism by general relativity

 

[Into the Night]

for the observer

"Time dilation and length contraction in Special Relativity"

Time dilation, length contraction and the relativity of simultaneity are among the strange conclusions of special relativity.

...deleted Holy Link...

For who? You really don't understand Einstein's theories at all.

 

[Into the Night]

Newton's equations are still in practice. That is just math.

The underlying principle of Newtonian gravitation - aka, action at a distance - has been displaced as an explanatory mechanism by general relativity

Newton's theories have not been falsified. They are still part of the body of science. Therefore Newton's laws are also still perfectly valid.
You do not understand Einstein's theories at all.

 

[Cypress]

Newton's theories have not been falsified. They are still part of the body of science. Therefore Newton's laws are also still perfectly valid.
You do not understand Einstein's theories at all.

Newton had no theory of gravity.

He had a mathematical law describing motion resulting from gravitation.

But Newton openly admitted he did not know what gravity actually was. He openly admitted he had no hypothesis explaining what gravity actually is.

He did not know what the underlying principle or phenomena was which caused this action at a distance.

That was Einstein's achievement. He actually developed the field equations and a theory which actually had explanatory power about what gravity actually is.

 

[Into the Night]

Newton had no theory of gravity.

Newton's law of gravitation is F=G(m1*m2)/r^2

He had a mathematical law describing motion resulting from gravitation.

Newton's law of gravitation does not describe motion. Apparently you don't understand Newton's theories either.

But Newton openly admitted he did not know what gravity actually was.
He openly admitted he had no hypothesis explaining what gravity actually is.

So?

He did not know what the underlying principle or phenomena was which caused this action at a distance.

Buzzword fallacy.

That was Einstein's achievement.

Nope. Einstein did not falsify Newton.

He actually developed the field equations and a theory which actually had explanatory power about what gravity actually is.

Never did. Einstein had no theory of gravitation. You do not understand any of Einstein's theories at all.

 

[AProudLefty]

Actually Newton's law of gravity can be made to describe motions and orbits.

 

[Cypress]

Into The Night: consistently ass-backwards wrong, time after time after time after time >>

Einstein had no theory of gravitation!!

"Einstein's Theory of Gravity"
https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/how-to-understand-einsteins-theory-of-gravity

There is no 'quantum theory of gravity'!

"A theory of quantum gravity"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/cosmos...ep-closer-to-a-theory-of-quantum-gravity/?amp

There is no such thing as 'planetary science'!!

"NASA Planetary Science program"
https://science.nasa.gov/solar-system

Stanford University: Division of Planetary Science
https://earth.stanford.edu/planetary-science

University of California: Division of Planetary Science
http://guide.berkeley.edu/undergraduate/degree-programs/planetary-science/

 

[Micawber]

Ass kicking fallacy!!!!!

 

[Cypress]

Yowssa. Reminds me of Cypress.

You are being driven by unfathomable resentment.

There is not a reasonable and fair minded person who would conflate me with INT. Unlike INT, I strive to acquire accurate knowlege >>
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...useum-(and-Republicans)&p=4488131#post4488131

It's true that what knowlege I have about science, history, religion, etc. I learn from subject matter experts via books, videos, classes.

I guess I was not born with innate knowlege in my head like you.

 

[BidenPresident]

You are being driven by unfathomable resentment.

Your cowardice is offensive to me. And you whine like a sissy.