Terrible news for the Creation Science museum (and Republicans)

[Into the Night]

When did I even imply that?

What’s the problem with saying evolution is, in part, an historical account?

It is, but many religions have historical accounts.

 

[Into the Night]

I agreed with that. And I said that is typical of all science. Not sure what the controversy is supposed to be.

If all science is history, how is predicting where the Moon will be in 1 hour's time using Newton's law of motion and Kepler's laws history?

 

[Into the Night]

Core dumps even more useful.

Which is actually a type of log!

 

[BidenPresident]

If all science is history, how is predicting where the Moon will be in 1 hour's time using Newton's law of motion and Kepler's laws history?

You are a poor reader. Why you keep repeating the same posts over and over.

I never said all science is history.

 

[AProudLefty]

If all science is history, how is predicting where the Moon will be in 1 hour's time using Newton's law of motion and Kepler's laws history?

That is called the predictive power based on observations.

 

[Into the Night]

You are a poor reader. Why you keep repeating the same posts over and over.

I never said all science is history.

You said it is typical of science. Semantics fallacy.

 

[Darth Omar]

I think the controversy is did man REALLY come from certain "subhuman" ancestor. That is the historical claim.

Thank you lol.

It’s impossible for it to NOT be an historical claim. And it’s most certainly distinct from claiming sun spots give off cosmic radiation, or whatever.

 

[Into the Night]

That is called the predictive power based on observations.

Observations do not predict. All observations are subject to the problems of phenomenology. They are not part of science. They are evidence only. Science does not use supporting evidence.

 

[AProudLefty]

Thank you lol.

It’s impossible for it to NOT be an historical claim. And it’s most certainly distinct from claiming sun spots give off cosmic radiation, or whatever.

Detective are pretty good at finding the historical events of the crime scenes.

Here's a puzzler: when you enter a room with a broken window and a baseball ball on the floor. What do you think happened?

 

[AProudLefty]

Observations do not predict. All observations are subject to the problems of phenomenology. They are not part of science. They are evidence only. Science does not use supporting evidence.

So the laws of physics can change at any time?

 

[Darth Omar]

Detective are pretty good at finding the historical events of the crime scenes.

Here's a puzzler: when you enter a room with a broken window and a baseball ball on the floor. What do you think happened?

And the criminals didn’t live 200,000 years ago lol. They can’t be interviewed and they weren’t caught on security cameras.

I don’t understand the resistance to the idea that evolution is, in part an historical narrative. And in ways that make it distinct from other areas of science.

Why should this be a problem?

 

[AProudLefty]

And the criminals didn’t live 200,000 years ago lol. They can’t be interviewed and they weren’t caught on security cameras.

I don’t understand the resistance to the idea that evolution is, in part an historical narrative. And in ways that make it distinct from other areas of science.

Why should this be a problem?

Thawed cavemen can be interviewed.

 

[Cypress]

I have been paying attention.

You claimed that "Theory of Natural Selection" has paradoxes. You never ever explained what those paradoxes are.

edit.... Sorry I meant this reply for INT

 

[Cypress]

RQAA. I already did. I will do it again since you apparently missed it the last time.

For Natural Selection to take place, you must have a variety to select from. Natural selection, however tends to reducing variety. So where does the variety come from? You can't suspend natural selection for even a moment.

Obviously you are unaware that evolution involves more than just natural selection.

It has been one hundred years since any credible scientist claimed natural selection is the sole basis of evolution.

We have learned a lot more in the 170 years since Darwin was writing in the 1850s. Ever since the grand synthesis of the 1930s, it has been demonstrated that biological evolution results from mutation, natural selection, gene flow, and genetic drift.

 

[BidenPresident]

You said it is typical of science. Semantics fallacy.

you're a fucking idiot

 

[Into the Night]

So the laws of physics can change at any time?

Sure. New theories are created all the time. Others are falsified and destroyed.

 

[Into the Night]

And the criminals didn’t live 200,000 years ago lol. They can’t be interviewed and they weren’t caught on security cameras.

I don’t understand the resistance to the idea that evolution is, in part an historical narrative. And in ways that make it distinct from other areas of science.

Why should this be a problem?

Science has no theories about past unobserved events. They are not falsifiable. The Theory of Evolution is not a theory of science.

 

[Into the Night]

Obviously you are unaware that evolution involves more than just natural selection.

It has been one hundred years since any credible scientist claimed natural selection is the sole basis of evolution.

We have learned a lot more in the 170 years since Darwin was writing in the 1850s. Ever since the grand synthesis of the 1930s, it has been demonstrated that biological evolution results from mutation, natural selection, gene flow, and genetic drift.

Paradox.

 

[Darth Omar]

Science has no theories about past unobserved events. They are not falsifiable. The Theory of Evolution is not a theory of science.

Your philosophy of science is *your* philosophy of science lol.

The rest of us accept that evolution falls under the rubric of science. My argument is that it has elements of an historical account.

 

[Darth Omar]

I think the controversy is did man REALLY come from certain "subhuman" ancestor. That is the historical claim.

Claiming that all present life owes its existence via common ancestry going back 100’s of millions years is an *historical* claim and there’s no way around it.