Reporters admit dismissing Wuhan lab leak theory in part because Republicans proposed

Concart said:
Correct. Cotton did not claim to have intelligence, he was speculating. So suggesting there was intelligence to this effect is flat out wrong. It was ALL speculative. Now it is less so. Since the speculation was combined with anti Chinese rhetoric and idiotic suggestions that the virus was manmade, people did not pay attention. Maybe they should have, but consider the the source. An Administration that was AT THE TIME lying about the seriousness of the virus. An administration that had a long history of gaslighting. Liars don't tend to be believed, even when they are telling the truth. That's the problem with lying.
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No that is not true. I have known for months that cellphone activity around the Wuhan lab went silent for a 3 week period around the start of the pandemic . I also knew that several lab workers were hospitalized early on with COVID symptoms. I have also known that key Wuhan virologists have disappeared. The is also a Chinese virologist that says she worked on the COVID virus and that it is lab created. She is in hiding outside of China. Also the virus popped up in Wuhan not 1500 miles away where bats really live. No bats were for sale in the wet market at the time the virus popped up in Wuhan.


The MSM said he was a conspiracy theorist. They said lab origin was "debunked" . They gaslighted you they lied to everyone.
 
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ExpressLane said:
No that is not true. I have known for months that cellphone activity around the Wuhan lab went silent for a 3 week period around the start of the pandemic . I also knew that several lab workers were hospitalized early on with COVID symptoms. I have also known that key Wuhan virologists have disappeared. The is also a Chinese virologist that says she worked on the COVID virus and that it is lab created. She is in hiding outside of China. Also the virus popped up in Wuhan not 1500 miles away where bats really live. No bats were for sale in the wet market at the time the virus popped up in Wuhan.
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Videos and news have been leaking out of China since the beginning.
 
ExpressLane said:
Yep. That Chinese female virologist that is hiding outside of China is interesting. I'm not sure what to think about her.
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She wasn't the only one. There were a few reporters/journalists who leaked news and videos. Some of them disappeared, of course.
 
ExpressLane said:
No that is not true. I have known for months that cellphone activity around the Wuhan lab went silent for a 3 week period around the start of the pandemic . I also knew that several lab workers were hospitalized early on with COVID symptoms. I have also known that key Wuhan virologists have disappeared. The is also a Chinese virologist that says she worked on the COVID virus and that it is lab created. She is in hiding outside of China. Also the virus popped up in Wuhan not 1500 miles away where bats really live. No bats were for sale in the wet market at the time the virus popped up in Wuhan.


The MSM said he was a conspiracy theorist. They said lab origin was "debunked" . They gaslighted you they lied to everyone.
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Lab origin WAS debunked. You are exhibit A for why no one believes the bullshit. It originated in animals. It may have made the jump in the lab, it may not have. But either way, that is not lab origin.

And yes, Cotton was speculating, and he admitted that.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/11/republican-tom-cotton-coronavirus-china

Try reading.
 
ExpressLane said:
Oh really? Where?
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As I said. Try reading.

"On March 25, the Washington Times published an updated article that reflects what an editor's note said is updated reporting: "Since this story ran, scientists outside of China have had a chance to study the SARS-CoV-2 virus. They concluded it does not show signs of having been manufactured or purposefully manipulated in a lab, though the exact origin remains murky and experts debate whether it may have leaked from a Chinese lab that was studying it.""

The Washington Times. Go ahead and tell us how they are 'fake news'

https://www.swtimes.com/story/news/...ered-but-its-origin-remains-unclear/42908315/

The problem is that you lack the critical thinking skill to understand the difference between 'ORIGINATED in a lab', and 'MADE THE JUMP TO HUMANS' in a lab. Your utter failure to grasp that difference is why you are an utter waste of time.
 
AProudLefty said:
Yep. There are two labs near the wet market.
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It didn't come from the wet market. https://www.livescience.com/covid-19-did-not-start-at-wuhan-wet-market.html

The first case of SARS-CoV-2 didn't emerge from a Wuhan wet market, according to experts at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).

Instead, the live animal market may have been the site of a superspreader event, where one person spread the virus to many other people, one US-based expert told Live Science.

Since the early days of the coronavirus pandemic, reports have suggested that SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) jumped from animals to humans in Wuhan's Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market. Now, experts at the WIV have said publicly that the theory was wrong, and that the virus must have originated elsewhere, according to a Wall Street Journal report.

"I haven't seen anything that makes me feel, as a researcher who studies zoonotic disease, that this market is a likely option," said Colin Carlson, a professor at Georgetown University who studies the spread of such zoonotic viruses, which transmit between animals and humans. Carlson does not work for the WIV.
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AssHatZombie said:
there's plenty of evidence.
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AND..................................................

I think you stopped there- as you did not have any evidence to back up what you just said!

Most people would say, "But, there is evidence, and here it is.............................(Fill in the blanks)"

You know that that is not only stupid but useless to just say," BUT THERE IS EVIDENCE without telling us what evidence you have!".

SO DON'T BE STUPID!
DON'T BE USELESS!

PLEASE AND THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!
 
Concart said:
As I said. Try reading.

"On March 25, the Washington Times published an updated article that reflects what an editor's note said is updated reporting: "Since this story ran, scientists outside of China have had a chance to study the SARS-CoV-2 virus. They concluded it does not show signs of having been manufactured or purposefully manipulated in a lab, though the exact origin remains murky and experts debate whether it may have leaked from a Chinese lab that was studying it.""

The Washington Times. Go ahead and tell us how they are 'fake news'

https://www.swtimes.com/story/news/...ered-but-its-origin-remains-unclear/42908315/

The problem is that you lack the critical thinking skill to understand the difference between 'ORIGINATED in a lab', and 'MADE THE JUMP TO HUMANS' in a lab. Your utter failure to grasp that difference is why you are an utter waste of time.
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Which scientist have said it shows no sign. How did they explain the furin cleavage site and the two side by side CGG codons? Do they have a vested interest in the research at Wuhan? Seriously you need to read/study the article below because this is not a Democrat vs Republican issue. We need to get to the bottom of this and make sure it does not happen again. To many people have died needlessly.

SARS2 has a furin cleavage sight and a two side-by-side CGG codons. That is you SMOKING GUN . The double codon CGG-CGG has not been found in any other beta-coronavirus.


Recombination is an inadvertent swapping of genomic material that occurs when two viruses happen to invade the same cell, and their progeny are assembled with bits and pieces of RNA belonging to the other. Beta-coronaviruses will only combine with other beta-coronaviruses but can acquire, by recombination, almost any genetic element present in the collective genomic pool. What they cannot acquire is an element the pool does not possess. And no known SARS-related beta-coronavirus, the class to which SARS2 belongs, possesses a furin cleavage site......

That leaves a gain-of-function experiment. For those who think SARS2 may have escaped from a lab, explaining the furin cleavage site is no problem at all. “Since 1992 the virology community has known that the one sure way to make a virus deadlier is to give it a furin cleavage site at the S1/S2 junction in the laboratory,” writes Steven Quay, a biotech entrepreneur interested in the origins of SARS2. “At least 11 gain-of-function experiments, adding a furin site to make a virus more infective, are published in the open literature, including [by] Dr. Zhengli Shi, head of coronavirus research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.”
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“When I first saw the furin cleavage site in the viral sequence, with its arginine codons, I said to my wife it was the smoking gun for the origin of the virus,” said Dr. David Baltimore, an eminent virologist and former president of CalTech. “These features make a powerful challenge to the idea of a natural origin for SARS2,” he said.
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It’s documented that researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology were doing gain-of-function experiments designed to make coronaviruses infect human cells and humanized mice. This is exactly the kind of experiment from which a SARS2-like virus could have emerged. The researchers were not vaccinated against the viruses under study, and they were working in the minimal safety conditions of a BSL2 laboratory. So escape of a virus would not be at all surprising. In all of China, the pandemic broke out on the doorstep of the Wuhan institute. The virus was already well adapted to humans, as expected for a virus grown in humanized mice. It possessed an unusual enhancement, a furin cleavage site, which is not possessed by any other known SARS-related beta-coronavirus, and this site included a double arginine codon also unknown among beta-coronaviruses. What more evidence could you want, aside from the presently unobtainable lab records documenting SARS2’s creation?
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https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/
 
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ExpressLane said:
Some of the very first patients hospitalized were workers from the Wuhan Virology Institute. Where they were conducting GOF research on CORNA viruses in a BL2 lab.
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There is another one that is closer. I forgot what it's called. Damn them beer. LOL

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ExpressLane said:
Which scientist have said it shows no sign. How did they explain the furin cleavage site and the two side by side CGG codons? Do they have a vested interest in the research at Wuhan? Seriously you need to read/study the article below because this is not a Democrat vs Republican issue. We need to get to the bottom of this and make sure it does not happen again. To many people have died needlessly.

SARS2 has a furin cleavage sight and a two side-by-side CGG codons. That is you SMOKING GUN . The double codon CGG-CGG has not been found in any other beta-coronavirus.







https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/
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Since getting any records out of the Wuhan lab isn’t going to happen, the only hope of getting slam dunk evidence would have come at the molecular level. It would be interesting to know if the double-codons at the cleavage site require a single mutation or two mutations *occurring simultaneously* to get from the bat virus Covid to COVID19.

If it’s the latter—forget about it: evolution cannot account for it. It has to be an engineered virus.
 
Darth Omar said:
Since getting any records out of the Wuhan lab isn’t going to happen, the only hope of getting slam dunk evidence would have come at the molecular level. It would be interesting to know if the double-codons at the cleavage site require a single mutation or two mutations *occurring simultaneously* to get from the bat virus Covid to COVID19.

If it’s the latter—forget about it: evolution cannot account for it. It has to be an engineered virus.
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You mean rapid evolution? Maybe.

Rapid evolutions have been demonstrated in various labs.
 
ExpressLane said:
Which scientist have said it shows no sign. How did they explain the furin cleavage site and the two side by side CGG codons? Do they have a vested interest in the research at Wuhan? Seriously you need to read/study the article below because this is not a Democrat vs Republican issue. We need to get to the bottom of this and make sure it does not happen again. To many people have died needlessly.

SARS2 has a furin cleavage sight and a two side-by-side CGG codons. That is you SMOKING GUN . The double codon CGG-CGG has not been found in any other beta-coronavirus.







https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/
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There is no evidence that the virus is man made, and these latest claims are NOT that the virus is man made. Try to keep up. I know it's hard.
 
AProudLefty said:
There is another one that is closer. I forgot what it's called. Damn them beer. LOL

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The workers that got sick were from the Wuhan virology institute. Where they were doing GOF research on CORONA virus. If it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck.......
 
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