Despicable Dems...

maineman said:
It was always my goal to simply instill in my son a love of the game, as my father did for me. How well my son learns how to play it is entirely up to him. At this point in his life, he has not gotten as good as me... but he DOES love the game, so I succeeded.

And I am quite sure that you could hit the ball quite well...
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A parent that has not instilled excellence in their children has done them a disservice.
 
If a father teaches his son to enjoy the game he has succeeded. Not all activities have to be competitive. Some sports (like golf) involve skills that are developed over time. As the son gets better so does the father.
 
WinterBorn said:
If a father teaches his son to enjoy the game he has succeeded. Not all activities have to be competitive. Some sports (like golf) involve skills that are developed over time. As the son gets better so does the father.
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If the son truly enjoyed the game he'd get not simply competent, but much better at it, at least to the point where and old man couldn't "beat the dogcrap" out of him.
 
Southern Man said:
If the son truly enjoyed the game he'd get not simply competent, but much better at it, at least to the point where and old man couldn't "beat the dogcrap" out of him.
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Golf is a game of subtle skills. If the father continues to play and improve there is no reason the son should automatically be able to beat him.

The son may play the game just to play the game. Plenty of people play and don't worry about the score. They enjoy the game as they play it. Each hole is a challenge in itself.
 
WinterBorn said:
Golf is a game of subtle skills. If the father continues to play and improve there is no reason the son should automatically be able to beat him.

The son may play the game just to play the game. Plenty of people play and don't worry about the score. They enjoy the game as they play it. Each hole is a challenge in itself.
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exactly. For me, each shot is the whole game in itself.
 
WinterBorn said:
Golf is a game of subtle skills. If the father continues to play and improve there is no reason the son should automatically be able to beat him.

The son may play the game just to play the game. Plenty of people play and don't worry about the score. They enjoy the game as they play it. Each hole is a challenge in itself.
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If it were a subtle as all that there wouldn't be great young golfers in the PGA or a need for a senior division. *shrug*
 
Southern Man said:
If it were a subtle as all that there wouldn't be great young golfers in the PGA or a need for a senior division. *shrug*
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So you are saying that if a father teaches his son to play golf then the son should be better than the father or the father failed?
 
WinterBorn said:
So you are saying that if a father teaches his son to play golf then the son should be better than the father or the father failed?
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I'm saying that a parent's goal should be for their child to exceed them, and that if they have not done so then they have failed. With regards to specific skills such as the game of golf, not everyone likes golf, and if the child does not share the parent's love for the game then so be it. But if the parent claims that his "goal [was] to simply instill in my son a love of the game" then states that he could "beat the dogcrap out of him", it is clear that he has failed at this lesser goal as well.
 
Southern Man said:
I'm saying that a parent's goal should be for their child to exceed them, and that if they have not done so then they have failed. With regards to specific skills such as the game of golf, not everyone likes golf, and if the child does not share the parent's love for the game then so be it. But if the parent claims that his "goal [was] to simply instill in my son a love of the game" then states that he could "beat the dogcrap out of him", it is clear that he has failed at this lesser goal as well.
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Not necessarily true. If he instilled a love of the game then the son may play simply for the enjoyment while the father works to get better.

Neither is right as they both accomplish what they want in the game.

I play golf. I almost never keep score. Each hole is a challenge. The competition is with myself.
 
WinterBorn said:
Not necessarily true. If he instilled a love of the game then the son may play simply for the enjoyment while the father works to get better.

Neither is right as they both accomplish what they want in the game.

I play golf. I almost never keep score. Each hole is a challenge. The competition is with myself.
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Again, if the son truly loved the game then he would be better at it, at least to the point whee his old man couldn't beat the dog crap out of him.

I taught my son to ski competitively and continue at the sport myself. I manage to beat him on occasion but every year it gets harder to do as he continues to excel. This is in spite of the fact that the sport has a handicap system that takes age into account.

I have succeeded at both goals- instilling the love of a life-long athletic sport and at having my son exceed me in it.
 
Southern Man said:
Again, if the son truly loved the game then he would be better at it, at least to the point whee his old man couldn't beat the dog crap out of him.

I taught my son to ski competitively and continue at the sport myself. I manage to beat him on occasion but every year it gets harder to do as he continues to excel. This is in spite of the fact that the sport has a handicap system that takes age into account.

I have succeeded at both goals- instilling the love of a life-long athletic sport and at having my son exceed me in it.
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Some do not play golf to be competitive or to compete with other people. Golf at its best is about competition with yourself.

No doubt there are many, many people who are better golfers than I am. They could probably beat the dog crap out of me on any course. But I love to play the game. So we both win. But the best part is that I don't ever lose.
 
WinterBorn said:
Some do not play golf to be competitive or to compete with other people. Golf at its best is about competition with yourself.

No doubt there are many, many people who are better golfers than I am. They could probably beat the dog crap out of me on any course. But I love to play the game. So we both win. But the best part is that I don't ever lose.
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Again, if you truly loved it you'd take lessons, join some leagues and get better at it instead of fooling yourself into thinking that you're only competing against yourself.
 
Southern Man said:
Again, if you truly loved it you'd take lessons, join some leagues and get better at it instead of fooling yourself into thinking that you're only competing against yourself.
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Why is joining a league or taking lessons important?

I love to play golf. I have no interest in competition. I am not fooling myself at all. I think you do not understand the game of golf.
 
WinterBorn said:
Why is joining a league or taking lessons important?

I love to play golf. I have no interest in competition. I am not fooling myself at all. I think you do not understand the game of golf.
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What's to understand? Either you take steps to improve or you resign yourself to mediocrity.
 
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