a few hours later

p-word said:
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Think so?

Fentanyl Floyd died of a drug-induced heart attack.
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Translation: Floyd's heart stopped beating and his lungs stopped inflating after Chauvin knelt on his on his neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds.

The video didn't lie. Chauvin's a sociopath who was indifferent to human life. He got what he deserved.
 
volsrock said:
The person above with the DEFUND AND ABOLISH the police is a black! If they don't want police than move um out of black areas
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You take a really simplistic view of what that means. Read and learn.

July 7, 2020 What ‘Abolish’ and ‘Defund’ the Police Really Mean
By Jessica S. Henry, associate professor of Justice Studies

Defunding the Police Means Reforming the Way We Police in America

In its most modest iteration, “abolish the police” doesn’t really mean abolish, and “defund the police” doesn’t really mean defund. Instead, these phrases are rallying cries designed to provoke immediate and sweeping police reforms and to provide protections for Black and brown people against police violence. Under this view, the call to abolish or defund the police is a provocative way to demand serious change to law enforcement. Those who embrace this position believe that the system of policing is badly broken, but it can still be revamped and repaired.

Defunding the Police Means Reallocating Funding to Other Service Providers

Defunding the police means redirecting funds traditionally allocated for police to social service agencies. It would involve scaling back the size and scope of police responsibilities and investing in social services that help people. Advocates of this approach argue this makes the most sense since 9 out of 10 police calls are for nonviolent events. Shifting money to programs that address addiction, mental illness, homelessness and employment training may reduce crime and improve public safety in the long run. An additional reform under this model could include the decriminalization of many behaviors, including drug crimes, which can then be addressed outside the criminal justice system and in treatment and harm-reduction programs.

Defunding the Police Means Restarting from the Ground Up

Some proponents of defunding the police are skeptical that existing police departments can ever be reformed. They call for demolishing what is currently in place and starting from scratch.
New Jersey is no stranger to scrapping a system that isn’t working and starting over. In Camden, the entire city’s police force was fired and the county took over with new guidance and a new culture shaped by community activists. Crime in Camden is down and so is police violence.

It appears that Minneapolis, the city where George Floyd died after an officer knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes, may be embracing the idea of dismantling their local force. In its place, the Minneapolis City Council is proposing the creation of a new “Department of Community Safety and Violence Prevention.” The scope and authority of such a department has yet to be defined.

Abolish Means What It Says: End Policing

Then, there are abolitionists who say abolition, in fact, means just that – an end or elimination of the institution of policing, once and for all. This is not equivocal.
The push for police abolition is not new. It first gained momentum in the 1980s and 1990s when a group of academics and activists called for the abolition of what they called the “prison industrial complex.” Policing was included within that abolition vision.

Abolitionists may envision “community care workers” rather than police, and restorative justice models to respond to crime in ways that do not involve locking people into dehumanizing prison cells.
In this model, policing would be replaced by fundamental societal change that would render the police largely unnecessary. Many of today’s “policing” tasks, abolitionists argue, could be better accomplished by trained professionals who could respond to prevent violence and then respond where necessary. And with dollars no longer going toward the police, more money could go toward health care, housing, education, employment – all of which would reduce the need for police in the first place.

More at link. https://www.montclair.edu/newscenter/2020/07/07/what-abolish-and-defund-the-police-really-mean/
 
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Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police

By Mariame Kaba

Ms. Kaba is an organizer against criminalization.


Read and discuss.




https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html
 
christiefan915 said:
Translation: Floyd's heart stopped beating and his lungs stopped inflating after Chauvin knelt on his on his neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds. The video didn't lie. Chauvin's a sociopath who was indifferent to human life. He got what he deserved.
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:rolleyes:


Correlation ≠ causation in statistics or life, kitten.

Brian Sicknick had a stroke and died on January 7, so "rioters" must have "murdered" him, right?
 
Iolo/Penderyn said:
In most countries the police know how to stop children killing one another without killing them. Send your cops for training abroad.
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really you think when someone is 2 feet or less from some one you can just stop them from stabbing some one. why dont you tell us how its done and how it will work every time. he had a choice shoot her or risk her killing someone else eith way scum like you will cry about it
 
TTQ64 said:
until they shoot you or yours.

every one is bad they are not judge jury and exacutioner.

its peoplelike you who we cater to and end up with no real reform

Not all police shootings are bad


if thEy arent being shot at DONT SHOOT. ITS SIMPLE!
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LMAO. Me and mine would never attempt to stab someone. Especially with a cop present.
 
Iolo/Penderyn said:
In most countries the police know how to stop children killing one another without killing them. Send your cops for training abroad.
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thing is, in America there is a national pattern that undercuts good police work....comparison of violent non-black perpetrators to those who are black usually shows the non-black folk NOT being subjected to deadly force. A matter of fact, of matter of history that taints any and all altercations. This may well have been a justified shooting, but you have advocates on both sides of the fence who are dug in and only believe their premature contentions.


And the band played on.
 
Iolo/Penderyn said:
In most countries the police know how to stop children killing one another without killing them. Send your cops for training abroad.
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300 pound child:laugh:


why dont you get some 300 pound nut or someone twice your size give them a kitchen knife place him 2 feet away from you

get someone else to stand 15 feet away without a gun...tell the nut to try and stab u with all their might after u have worked him up into a full blown rage


tell the guy 15 feet away to stop it...and get back to us
 
gfm7175 said:
Watch the body cam footage. How else was the cop supposed to stop that morbidly obese whale from killing two black people? If anything, you should be thanking that officer for saving two black lives.
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Do at least try to imagine a police force with some guts not spending all their time killing people.
 
Bulletbob said:
really you think when someone is 2 feet or less from some one you can just stop them from stabbing some one. why dont you tell us how its done and how it will work every time. he had a choice shoot her or risk her killing someone else eith way scum like you will cry about it
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Ask our police, kid. They often do it. Ill-mannered peasant fart, aren't you! :)
 
Iolo/Penderyn said:
Why not employ some men with the guts to take the knife away?
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I'm assuming you've viewed the footage...what should he have done (I know you didn't mean "throw away the gun...lol)? Our police force spends the vast majority of their time not killing people, btw;)
 
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