BidenPresident
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Insults get you ignored. Bye.
The Bill of Rights is NOT negotiable.
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Insults get you ignored. Bye.
SmarterthanYou
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I accept your concession
And therefore negotiable
Individual rights don’t trump the public welfare. No mention of government on my part.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
the whole concept of the constitution was to empower government to PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THE INDIVIDUAL. You've fallen victim to the despotic nature of government and political parties.......
That was Old America, which was murdered.
Currently court interpretation of the 1st Amendment allows restrictions on free speech involving threats and slander (among others) and interpretations of free press allows restrictions on libel and pornography.
If these rights are absolute (Congress shall make NO law) then these cannot be restricted. Those are facts using logic.
Even your interpretation of constitutional law should be able to follow that logic. If not, then those rights are not absolute.
Joe's handlers deem the Constitution superfluous when it suits them, old comrade.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
this is more hyperbole. extremist fallacy. the right to free speech is not the right to slander or libel someone. There is a difference that is easily seen when not being argued by the 'no right is absolute' crowd. Don't be a moron like jarod who argues if rights are absolute, then incarcerated prisoners should have guns...........
They take the right from prisoners.... Is that not infringement?
Exactly my point. Government can restrict speech, press, religion, etc. Therefore, those rights are not absolute.
Obviously the Constitution does not define which restrictions are permissible, so that has become the role of the federal courts.
Libel and slander are not generally illegal--laws don't prohibit them. But there is a remedy in civil court.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
you're missing the point. slander and libel creates harm to others, thus there is no right to slander or libel. that does not mean FREE speech is not absolute
the government has no constitutional authority to define the limits of their power
exactly. If Libel and Slander were considered free speech, there could be no civil suit. Therefore, Libel and Slander are not considered free speech rights.
MAGA MAN
Let's go Brandon!
He's a Democrat like you, therefore routinely ignores the Constitution.
Mr.Badguy
Super lefty
No one wants to address this?
SmarterthanYou
rebel
I'll address this, only to blame all the trumpers out there that are responsible for allowing this mindset to not only continue, but flourished under trump with the bumpstock ban as you idiot trumpers shrugged your shoulders by saying 'bumpstocks aren't firearms'..........which only goes to show that most of you are as ignorant about the constitution and the law as most of the left
Sure: Americans are now very often both ignorant and cowards.....and so supremely ignorant that they dont know that they suck as humans.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
that works just as well
no.
the measure isnt the public good - moronic Progs like yourself justify that for anything
if any regulations do not infringe on individual ownership then they are tolerated
Of course it goes without saying courts make that decision
I do not understand this post.